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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty Peak Energy is a lie fabricated to create a world currency based on carbon credits

Post  Shelby on Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:53 pm

Read this:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/economics-f4/global-warming-nonsense-t108.htm#2458

We have sufficient carbon fuels which are also renewable. And of course the nuclear options discussed earlier in this thread.

We only need higher prices to stimulate production of sufficient energy. Another link on that.

Do not forget the following post about transportation fuel options (other than converting converting carbon fuels to gas or diesel):

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/technology-f8/energy-t119.htm#2360

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty Technology Explosion Coming (and a new world order sans nation-states)

Post  Shelby on Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:35 pm

There is a battle coming between the old politics and the new technology. Gold is bridge between the two epochs. Hold on tight...

The 339 times more prosperous for savers in 1800s math makes sense when you realize that governments have been holding back a technology explosion, which will finally break out as a result of this crisis:

http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayCwc.php?id=25

We've been saving in technology, not money, in 1900s, and the payout will come after the financial payback has obliterated the old models that were holding us back, i.e. monopolies, patents, copyrights, centralized power, including the end of server farms (Google) and the move to mesh networking, etc........................

The end of the nation-state and a new world order:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/economics-f4/changing-world-order-t32-60.htm#2536

The old politics (PTB) are going to attempt to cull 90% of the world's population so they can maintain control, and they will fail (but there might be some very nasty interim transistion period):

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/economics-f4/inflation-or-deflation-t9-300.htm#2530

They will use scare tactics like this (the opening video for that failed Global Warming treaty at Copenhagen):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OIPYUlHv38

Who knows maybe they even have the power with HAARP to actually create natural disasters...I doubt it...

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I had the idea for one more article before I say adios to the financial commentary community to focus on my core career competency. What I have realized is that we will have an explosion of technology after we get through this global financial crisis (gold+silver are the bridge from 1900s stagnation to coming technology epoch), because it has been held back by the politics of the world (patents, copyrights, govt supported centralization of technology e.g. NASA, military, FCC licensings, etc), and is reflected in the undeniably proven mathematical fact shown in article you just published, that savers earned 339 times (33,900%) more real wealth in 1800s than 1900s. It has been shown to repeat in history that technology is held back, then explodes into an epoch that alters reality (e.g. Industrial Revolution). I have a lot of specific data to bring together for such an article. We should have already had the technology of Star Trek and Jetsons long ago, instead the mass media (and socialism of collective society) gave us the bread&circus cinematic replacements (but that is how nature works in exponential bursts and decay). Do not know when I will have time...

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty Energy waves paradigm shifts in history

Post  Shelby on Tue Jan 26, 2010 5:23 am

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/technology-f8/computers-t112-30.htm#2585

And note we have been finding huge natural gas deposits lately, and do not forget my posts in the silver as investment thread about technology coming for solar panels to double or triple their output (1/2 or 1/3 cost per watt).

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty 12th ‘Super-giant’ oil field discovery since 1996

Post  Shelby on Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:42 pm

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article16893.html

..It is what oil geologists call a ‘Super-giant’ field. Estimates are that the Cuban field contains as much as 20 billion barrels of oil, making it the twelfth Super-giant oilfield discovered since 1996...

...retired oil geologist Colin Campbell and Texas oil banker Matt Simmons, claimed that there had not been a single new Super-giant oil discovery since 1976...

...Despite the promising 1979 results in Haiti, Dr. Georges Michel reported that, “the big multinational oil companies operating in Haiti pushed for the discovered deposits not to be exploited.” Oil exploration in and offshore Haiti ground to a sudden halt as a result...

...A US military occupation of Haiti under the guise of earthquake disaster ‘relief’ would give Washington and private business interests tied to it a geopolitical prize of the first order. Prior to the January 12 quake, the US Embassy in Port-au-Prince was the fifth largest US embassy in the world, comparable to its embassies in such geopolitically strategic places as Berlin and Beijing. With huge new oil finds off Cuba being exploited by Russian companies, with clear indications that Haiti contains similar vast untapped oil as well as gold, copper, uranium and iridium, with Hugo Chavez’ Venezuela as a neighbor to the south of Haiti, a return of Aristide or any popular leader committed to developing the resources for the people of Haiti, -- the poorest nation in the Americas -- would constitute a devastating blow to the world’s sole Superpower...

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty World's 1st Mass-Market Hybrid Motorcycle

Post  Shelby on Sun Feb 07, 2010 6:28 am


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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty Gold manipulation caused the energy crisis (Evidence that gold manipulation retarted energy technology)

Post  Shelby on Fri Mar 19, 2010 4:02 am

Watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rzd8GX6Pqw

Read this:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/economics-f4/what-is-money-t44-60.htm?sid=ec950f55234dcbbdf6787b79de13bff1#2832

SRSrocco wrote:Poor Shelby

100 MPG mopeds (Honda has a new one PCX which is very hi-tech and comfortable) can lower the transportation use by 75% in USA, and that is about all the Americans will be able to afford soon any way.

Migration from cold climates could be intense in coming decades. Too bag Global Warming was a lie (just as peak energy will be proven to be a lie).

I had already posted long ago how Toshiba has a small nuclear reactor that can be buried and power a small city or large community for 10 years without maintenance. Uses salt cooling, so 100% safe.

What is likely is that people will huddle into more dense cities, with more dense electrically powered mass transportation and elevators. Eliminate the battery by tethering. People ("useless eaters" see my link below) will spend much more time on the computer doing social programming and other "useless" jobs that other people value. Mankind is being reduced to the arts, as due to automation, cost of industrial production will reach towards 0, especially when the nuclear era hits full speed with near 0 cost.

Add to this nanotechnology, which is going make orders-of-magnitude changes in the material properties we use from everything to generating energy to using it. For example, solar panels are already with 25-50% of competing with coal (include the cost of laying transmission wire to less dense locales), and new nanotechnology gold/silver wires have increased this to 100% in the lab. An explosion of technology is going, and it is being ushered in by the demands of the crisis. Technology priorities had been held back for decades with the manipulation of the gold price, and probably peaked in rate when the govt got into the science business with the NASA lunar projects in the 1960s. And now we are nearing the bottom in the technology suppression on the materials front. Since material technology was held back by mispricing of capital investment past 4 decades due to manipulation of gold price, this is why computer (virtual and nearly 0 capital cost) had advanced at a much faster rate. And this computer infrastructure has enabled the networking which is now accelerating the material sciences, etc. Steve, I do not expect you to understand this, but you might try.

I have for years said that the energy problem is being caused by the mis-allocation of priorities in society due to the manipulation of the gold price:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/precious-metals-f6/gold-as-an-investment-t60-195.htm#2843

eSolar is getting close to fossil fuels:

http://www.businessinsider.com/green-innovation-bill-gross-full-interview-2010-3
(skip to the 19 - 20 minute portion to read about financing paradox of solar grid parity, very big eye opener that gives credence to the theory that gold manipulation retarted energy technology)

Bill Gross may not be aware that some companies are eliminating the use of silicon in solar panels.


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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty And long-term oversupply of natural gas

Post  Shelby on Sat Mar 20, 2010 2:11 am

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article17825.html

Which can be used to tide the world over as the transistions to new energy order is achieved as discussed in prior post.

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty Denninger says it better than I could

Post  Shelby on Tue Jun 08, 2010 5:03 am

http://market-ticker.org/archives/2380-There-Are-Times....html
http://www.market-ticker.org/archives/2385-Energy-Are-You-A-Pig-And-A-Bigot.html

Bravo Denninger.

Except Denninger still thinks the problem and solutions are laws and regulations (socialism is the cause, not the solution!). Denninger the laws and regulations will always be made by (and benefit) those who print the money, don't you remember what Rothschild said? (this is why Denninger would never conceive of the BP spill or 9/11 as false flag events, planted by those who have the power over money creation out-of-thin-air)

Any energy crisis is self-inflicted. We have mainly a monetary crisis, which even Denninger apparently does not fully understand:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article19914.html

EROEI is a crock when the base power load can be nuclear. The assertion that nuclear will have a very low EROEI is a lie, steeped in political logjams (regulations, political delays and cost overruns, does not consider the new modular style nuclear reactors, etc).

We may have an energy crisis, if the politics succeeds in creating one.

But the real problem is monetary and thus political. Energy is a side-show (although it could end up being a big side-show).

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P.S. It is noteable that Denninger understands thermodynamics and compounding, but yet he doesn't extrapolate that to the centralizing power of fiat money (and that socialism destroys capital). He argues for more centralized power and thus more socialism. He is so close to the truth, yet so far:

http://www.market-ticker.org/archives/2386-When-Do-We-Start-Arresting-The-Central-Bankers.html

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty re: debt saturation of misallocation

Post  Shelby on Thu Jun 10, 2010 5:56 am

Mis-allocation of capital causes peak production, not vice versa.

http://jasonhommelforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53918#post53918

SRSrocco wrote:
shelbylook wrote:I have been trying to avoid touching on the subject of peak oil, because it renews the same old debate that just goes on and on...

Any way, Denninger says it better than I could:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/economics-f4/peak-oil-nonsense-t102-15.htm#3167

EROEI is a crock when the base power load can be nuclear. The assertion that nuclear will have a very low EROEI is a lie, steeped in political logjams (regulations, political delays and cost overruns, does not consider the new modular style nuclear reactors, etc).

We may have an energy crisis, if the politics succeeds in creating one.

But the real problem is monetary and thus political. Energy is a side-show (although it could end up being a big side-show).

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ADD: Steve I am not disagreeing with your focus on potential supply chain and energy problems. I appreciate your research in this area. We could end up having some really severe shortages, given the politics of waste and destruction and malinvestment, which is enabled to continue because the people don't force the monetary end soon by trading their paper for precious metal money.

Some much to write...and so little time.

Martin Armstrong, the poor fella still held in jail who is famous for his pi-cycles and analytical work, wrote how the Roman Empire fell because of Socialism by certain leaders. Martin Armstrong goes on further to state that the Roman Monetary system collapsed as it was devalued over 98% in only 13 years:

Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Roman_10

Martin Armstrong attributes the fall of the Roman Empire to Socialistic Emperors who redistributed the wealth from the rich to the poor as well as currency debasement. He goes on further to say the same parallel is happening in America.

I BEG TO DIFFER:
Here is why

My upcoming article will prove that it is not monetary printing, socialism or debasement of a currency that destroys the economy of an empire, but rather a FALLING EROI which is also called DIMINISHING RETURNS on TECHNOLOGY-COMPLEXITY.

The Roman Empire did not fall due to SOCIALISM or a CURRENCY DEVAUATION of the silver coin, but rather due to the same reason the great American Empire will fall. Roman in its infancy grew by taking over other countries that had gold, silver and lead mines....as well as other natural resources. The first countries they took over were the easiest, and produced the most booty.

As time went on, it took MORE ENERGY and RESOURCES to keep the larger and growing ROMAN EMPIRE together from invading enemies, or problems from within. At the last stages of the empire, a great deal of energy and resources were consumed only gaining marginal lands and countries with poor gold-silver mines and resources. Thus we had a FALLING EROI.

The debasement of the currency and the socialism were the last stages of an attempt to try to postpone the inevitable. So.......those who blame monetary printing and socialism....are looking at the symptoms and not the disease itself.

THE DISEASE is a falling EROI or DIMINISHING RETURNS OF TECHNOLOGY or COMPLEXITY.

I will discuss this in detail in the article coming to online websites.

Steve, you are correct, except what do you think causes the falling efficiency of capital?

MISALLOCATION VIA DECADES OF SOCIALISM AND DEBT.

It is not technology that fails, it is the overuse of debt and socialism, which eventually wastes all the capital and when there haven't been no correct investments for decades, then the efficiency of everything implodes.

Here is some more interesting related commentary:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1951 (the comments explain how socialism has priced human capital out of the market of doing work, as one example of misallocation)
https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/economics-f4/is-capitalism-or-is-socialism-increasing-t18-45.htm#3154 (computation of rising cost of govt regulation)

Understand that "capital" is not "money" and vice versa, once it has been wasted, you can't get it back, you can't just store money and expect it to remain capital, nor can you misuse money and not lose capital:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/economics-f4/is-capitalism-or-is-socialism-increasing-t18.htm#3091

Normally burying your money in the ground with gold is counter-productive (wastes capital), except at times like this where it is the regulator against negative real interest rates and socialism:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article19914.html (see my comments at bottom)
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article19888.html (see my comments at bottom)

As I have written at above links, Denninger has a good understanding of all of it, except that he fails to understand the "the law" is socialism and is not self-regulating. And he never grew up and understood that democracy is a lie, as it is enslaved to the bell curve or Gaussian distribution of human nature and IQ. The Bible had this wisdom 2000 years ago in 1 Samuel 8:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Samuel%208&version=NIV (substitute "govt and law" for "king")

And the economic warning (truth) does come true every time:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1%20Samuel%2015&version=NIV

The 2nd commandment (which was removed for Catholics by King of Spain) is explicit that we are not to whor(E)ship things of this world (Harlots/symbolic prostitutes in Revelation), we are only to place trust in God's (nature's or natural) law (i.e. the 1856 law of thermo, which states the universe scale trends to maximum possibilities/disorder/entropy), which is why a centralized force (e.g. "man's law") can never be sustainable. Jesus said render unto Caesar what is his (his failure) and render unto God (natural law) what is his.

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty BP oil well 18,000 ft below sea level

Post  Shelby on Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:42 pm

13,000 ft below seabed.

Oil is a non-renewable fossil fuel? How did fossils get down to 13,000 ft?

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty More EROEI nonsense

Post  Shelby on Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:49 pm

See my comments at bottom of this article:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article20400.html

Shelby wrote:My rebuttal to the prior comment "ultra-deep will not combat peak oil" follows.

1) The fact that we are pulling oil from 18,000 ft below sealevel (13,000 ft below seabed) means that oil is not a fossil fuel and is in fact an endless stream of oil generated by heat and pressures inside the earth. How could dead organisms get down that deep?

2) There is no way you can tell me that is takes billions of barrels of oil energy to place a 21" diameter bore and casing into the earth 13,000 ft and build a aircraft carrier size rig up on top. Nonsense. Just use your common sense dude, and stop listing to all the propaganda from the media who want to blame this coming monetary crisis on a fiction called "peak oil" (just as they lied to us about Global Warming, google "Climategate"), and see the temperature/CO2 charts near bottom of this post:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/knowledge-f9/book-ultimate-truth-t148.htm#3159

There is a very simple explanation for the Hubbard curve, and simply that it became cheaper to produce oil outside the USA. Simple economics. And if there is any world peak and decline in production (there is not yet, only projections), then it will be because of mis-allocation of capital due to the failure of the Ultimate Marget Regulator:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article20263.html

But people are too stupid, and they fall for the misdirection of blame fed to you by TPTB:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/health-f5/preparing-for-coming-crisis-t41-45.htm#3254

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Shelby wrote:Eventually the declining EROEI of oil production, will be displaced by a more efficient energy source, such as nuclear. But that will be a good thing.

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty BP spill is evidence of abiotic oil

Post  Shelby on Wed Jul 07, 2010 8:08 pm

1 billion bbls of oil in the BP oil spill field:

http://jasonhommelforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=54126#post54126

That is 11+ years of world consumption in just one well.

Ask yourself why was the Yukos CEO imprisoned in Russia.

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty BP's Thunderhorse

Post  Shelby on Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:42 pm

1. Thunderhorse is deeper than claimed for this Maconda spill well (23,000 ft stated by Simmons):

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thunder_Horse_Oil_Field&oldid=364057531#Discovery_and_development

The Thunder Horse discovery well was drilled in 1999 on Mississippi Canyon block 778. It was drilled to a depth of 25,770 feet (7,850 m) from the drillship Discoverer Enterprise, hitting three intervals of oil.

A second well was drilled in block 822, 1.5 miles (2.4 km) southeast of the initial discovery, reaching a depth of 29,000 feet (8,800 m) in November 2000 and also encountered three primary intervals of oil.

In February 2001 a new field known as Thunder Horse North was drilled in block 776, approximately 5 miles northwest of the original field. This well reached 26,000 feet (7,900 m) and again met three intervals of oil.

At Thunderhorse they drilled all the way through the oil pockets to determine their vertical depth. Apparently they didn't do that at Maconda, maybe because they were seeing pressure problems?

2. Total production from Thunderhorse field has declined by only 20% from 250,000 to 175,000 bbls per day (from 7 wells), and appears to be from water intrusion in the south wells (north is producing to full capacity without water problems):

http://www.energybulletin.net/node/52659
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Thunder_Horse_Oil_Field&oldid=364057531#Discovery_and_development

3. Note ExxonMobil is 25% partner on Thunderhorse (maybe BP couldn't cut costs there as carelessly?):

http://www.offshore-technology.com/projects/crazy_horse/

I had read or heard recently that BP's cost cutting had turned the North Sea into a non-producing "rust bowl". It appears as though cost cutting on Maconda is what fated it to fail, along with the high pressure. The Thunderhorse wells are averaging 17405 psi (120 MPa), and Lindsey says the confirmed pressure at Maconda is 40,000, but the highest number I had seen elsewhere was 9,000 to 11,000. So we still don't know if high pressure is what caused the Maconda problems. Given that BP did not drill a relief well along side the main well, did not use the correct thickness for casing, did not put O-rings in the casing, did not do the correct concreting, etc., then I think it is more likely that BP intended for Maconda to fail.

4. I read some where at above links that 10 billion bbls have been proven up in deep water in Gulf recently, and with claimed potential at 30 billion. With Thunderhorse producing 365 x 0.175 million = 64 million bbls per year now, it is roughly producing in one year, 1 days world of global oil consumption. So we would need dozens, if not hundreds, of these huge fields to sustain world oil consumption. The world is consuming nearly 30 billion bbls of oil per year.

5. That these deep wells yield oil and lots of other molten stuff, it seems to support the theory that oil is created by high pressures and heat deep in the earth's mantle, then it seeps upwards into fields. So perhaps oil is regenerating. Maybe we just need to drill more of the earth's crust to find more places where the oil is seeping up. We haven't drilled even 5% of the gulf, much less the entire oceans nor even 5% of the land area of the world. What is the way to make oil peak and make it more expensive (so you can crash the global economy and implement your world govt)? Force the production to be in deep water, by blocking all drilling on the mainland. I think Lindsey is correct about Alaska and Dakotas having oil fields larger than Saudi Arabia.

6. Thunderhorse could supply the entire oil consumption for the Philippines, a country with a population of 100 million and reasonably enough modern in the cities.

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty Spot energy pricing & drilling deep expensive holes

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty Energy non-crisis solved

Post  Shelby on Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:52 am

Convert your vehicle to CNG and all the potential threats are solved!


  1. Storage cost of roughly $2 per L, since CNG has 25% energy density of diesel and 3.78 L / gallon, this is roughly $30 per gallon.
  2. Half-life of natural gas oxidation in atmosphere is 7 years, but it isn't exposed to oxygen in CNG form in a tank, so figure the storage life is many years at least.
  3. Build a methane generator which converts human+animal feces, food, and even paper waste to biogas, so you don't need a big compressed storage tank. You can then buy a compressor to fill your vehicle CNG tanks. And you can power your home on the uncompressed methane. Note that if you don't odor to your biogas, you have danger of killing yourself. Note the overflow from the methane generator is compost fertilizer for growing food!
  4. Honda makes a natural gas car: http://automobiles.honda.com/civic-gx/ (thanks Karl for the tip)


I don't know why I didn't point this out before, because I have been aware of taxi conversions to CNG in the Philippines for several years.

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty Peaks are induced by centralized policy

Post  Shelby on Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:46 am


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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty Coming depression will relieve demand for oil (unless we go into war)

Post  Shelby on Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:21 am

Read entire article at top of page of the following links, and also these specific linked comments:

http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/future-chaos-there-no-plan-b/46331#comment-91399
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/future-chaos-there-no-plan-b/46331?page=1#comment-91426
http://www.chrismartenson.com/blog/future-chaos-there-no-plan-b/46331?page=1#comment-91429

I didn't realize the abandoned Saudi fields still have 50% of the oil down there! Essentially that pulsed water injection technology recovers more oil because the water is not dispersed into (mixed with) the oil:

http://eori.uwyo.edu/downloads/EOR_IOR_Jackson2010/Powerwave_PTTC(081810).pdf#page9

China will crash once oil gets too expensive-- the Great Depression will relieve demand for oil (unless we go into war):

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/economics-f4/inflation-or-deflation-t9-450.htm#3775

Some may appreciate the list of books from 3min point forward in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMVseuagYt8

This guy in CT is sucking his incoming air for his residential aircon through underground tunnels in order to pre-cool it. Apparently saves a lot of power, because the underground stores the night time temperature. if you cut the temperature DIFFERENTIAL by 2/3 (e.g. 94 - 70F to 78 - 70F for Atlanta in summer perhaps), the power cost should be 2/3 less. This may be of less benefit in very humid climates where the air temp doesn't drop as much at night. I don't know what % of your cost structure is power, but it will probably increase over time due to developing world rising to compete for energy and the rising cost (lower EROEI) of extracing oil and coal.

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty re: world's population

Post  Shelby on Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:43 pm

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article17644.html#comment95551

Shelby wrote:Christian L. wrote:
"...I agree that the worlds population is getting out of hand and causing many problems..."

That westerners believe such erroneous propaganda, is really sad. We need more people (more independent actors and possibilities), not less:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/knowledge-f9/book-ultimate-truth-chapter-6-math-proves-go-forth-multiply-t159-15.htm#3640

And the "problems" with energy are non-problems, but actually normal change that is part of the trend of the universe towards maximum possibilities (disorder, aka entropy), as dictated by the 2nd law of thermodynamics (discovered in 1856!):

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/knowledge-f9/book-ultimate-truth-chapter-6-math-proves-go-forth-multiply-t159-15.htm#3748

The Malthusian propaganda (e.g. global warming, climate change, peak energy, etc) are lies promulgated by the mass media, which since 1980s has been concentrated into ownership by a few rich families such as Ted Turner, who is allegedly the financier of the Georgia Guidestones:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Georgia_Guidestones&oldid=390241904#Reactions

I have interpreted the symbolic meaning of those stone inscriptions:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/economics-f4/changing-world-order-t32-90.htm#3515

Consider the benefit of trusting nature and living in harmony with it, instead of thinking we can control the future (e.g. birth control pills at young age that turn our women into men). Let's stop the insanity.

What is causing the world's problems is mankind's love of debt and pooling decisions and resources, i.e. the fiat system. If you want to read everything I have wrote on this site so you can come up to speed on understanding the concept and math:

http://www.google.com/search?q=site:marketoracle.co.uk+Shelby+Moore

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Post  Shelby on Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:12 pm

We are hallucinating if we think humans can destroy this planet earth:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGOBm2J4tn0

Do you know that Thatcher broke the coal unions using the Global Warming lie? That is why the UK funded that false science.

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Post  Shelby on Sat Oct 23, 2010 4:58 pm


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Post  Shelby on Sat Oct 30, 2010 9:02 pm


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Post  Shelby on Sun Oct 31, 2010 2:21 am

mass of Earth = 5.9742 × 10^1024 kilograms (thats is 1024 zeros!)
mass of all humans on earth = 3.5 x 10^11 kilograms

There is no way that a mass can deplete a mass that is 10^100 times larger (that is 100 zeros!).

Malthusians are utterly nonsensical, I don't care how many charts they masturbate with.

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty Shale natural gas issues are not really relevant over the long-term

Post  Shelby on Mon Nov 01, 2010 4:43 am

I don't care about shale natural gas, there is enough natural gas in my butt to power the world.

Beans, beans, the more you eat, the more you fart, and the more you fart, the better you feel, so eat your beans at every meal.

Seriously though, natural gas is very plentiful at the ocean floors. There are huge fields in the Gulf of Mexico, and they are finding all around the Pacific ocean islands.

Natural gas is also made from anaerobic decomposition of any organic matter. When you think about anaerobic not requiring oxygen, then think about formation deep under the earth's surface, perhaps from heat and pressure with the basic building blocks of carbon, hydrogen, etc

Just above the earth's surface, running out of natural gas is impossible until you run out of organic matter.

And then you have to deal with the apparent fact that natural gas is produced abundantly and renewably within the earth's mantle.

Bottom line is that the Earth is a mass which is:

10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000

Times greater than the mass of all the human body matter on earth.

The probability that we can not exploit the nearly infinite amount of energy in that relatively larger mass is very near to 0.

The energy contained within mass is mass X speed-of-light squared. That is unfathomably large.

Malthusians have a deficiency in math.

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Peak Oil Nonsense - Page 2 Empty One medium size river of oil will run the entire globe

Post  Shelby on Tue Nov 02, 2010 8:19 am

http://www.evsroll.com/Peak_Oil_Myth.html

World Oil production and use is as much as a river 5,500 cfs (155 cms)

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Just to give some perspective of flow rates:

64,750 cu ft/s Niagra Falls
85,000 cfs Colorado River
700,000 cfs to around 200,000 cfs Mississippi River
2,500,278 cu ft/s Yangtze River

So what is more plentiful on earth, carbon or water?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon#Occurrence

Carbon is the fourth most abundant chemical element in the universe by mass after hydrogen, helium, and oxygen.

Malthusians are kooks.

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1 cu foot = 28.3168466 liter
1 barrel of oil = 159 liters
5500 cu ft/sec x 60 sec/min x 60 min/hour x 24 hours/day x 1 bbl/159 lites x 28.3 liters/cu.ft = 84,579,623 barrels/day

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