The dollar will end with voilence

Shelby Tue Jul 07, 2009 10:20 am

Scholarly excellent article:

http://www.kitco.com/ind/fekete/jul062009.html

Fekete wrote:"...What this means is that there is no hope for change through peaceful means. When change finally does come, it will be through violence. When the economic pain inflicted on the people reaches unbearable heights, law and order will break down, anarchy and chaos will ensue..."

RandyH Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:25 am

That is a great article by Fekete. Thanks for posting that Shelby.

Shelby Fri Jul 10, 2009 11:22 am

http://www.gold-eagle.com/editorials_08/galland070909.html

Shelby Thu Jul 16, 2009 3:23 pm

http://financialsense.com/editorials/quinn/2009/0713.html

...Previous 4th Turnings in U.S. history have involved total war. Deaths during the American Revolutionary War were approximately 50,000. Total deaths during the Civil War were 600,000. Total deaths during World War II were 73,000,000. How many people will die during the coming Crisis? No one knows the answer in advance. An integrated global economy, combined with nuclear weapons, advanced military killing machines, terrorists, and peak oil appears to be a recipe for death on a colossal scale...

Shelby Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:37 pm

Jason wrote about possibility of armed rebellion in USA few times recently:

http://silverstockreport.com/2009/road2.html
http://silverstockreport.com/2009/gunshow.html
http://silverstockreport.com/2009/people.html

In my gutt, I think the American experience will be mostly unlike Weimer Germany. I think we are going to have a very fractured society. The differences between Americans are going to amplified as much, as they had been numbed as the society was bribed with debt to a common commercialized consciousness.

Shelby Fri Jul 24, 2009 4:15 pm

http://us.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/07/23/wus.warfare.remote.uav/index.html

...UAVs credited with killing more than half al Qaeda's top 20 leaders...

...There are now more than 7,000 UAVs...

...Now U.S. Secretary of Defense Robert Gates wants more UAVs. Already he has said...the F-35...will be the last manned fighter aircraft...

...Some new drones will be as small as flies...

Revelations seems to be getting closer. Will it take 30 years to have enough of these, and a zombie core of socialized humanity to support the use of these drones to wipe out those that won't take the 666 in order to buy and sell?

Guest Tue Aug 04, 2009 5:22 pm

Shelby wrote:This is not political discussion, rather a factual example of the effects of redistribution of wealth...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjwEBrAWMu4&feature=related

Wake up America!!!

Shelby Mon Aug 10, 2009 7:15 pm

Germany does not have possession of it's own gold!

http://solari.com/blog/?p=3775

So now we possibly know what Germany was making noises about months ago, when during MSC's live day with Obama, they had to clear out the reporters for a important matter with Germany.

Shelby Wed Aug 12, 2009 2:17 am

Europe's problem:

http://www.frontlinethoughts.com/article.asp?id=mwo071709

...And here's the real issue. They have no Paulson and Bernanke...

...The European Central Bank, at least as of now, cannot step in and start saving individual banks. How do you save a Spanish bank and not an Austrian bank? Austria's banks have made large loans to Eastern Europe, in euros and Swiss francs, and are going to have large losses, far more than 3%, which would wipe out their capital. But bank assets in Austria are 4 times GDP. What we have are banks that are too big to save for relatively small Austria. And for Italy, Spain, Greece, et al. More on this below. For now, let's turn our eyes to Switzerland...

So in USA, the Fed is allowing the States to die from the debt implosion, and in Europe, the EU is allowing the member nations to die (many nations in EU are size of USA states).

This is the transistion to a new world order. First you have to destroy the states, then later you can merge the various regional central banks.

dz20854 Wed Aug 12, 2009 1:43 pm

...to see why the state level of government is now obsolete.

(1) Government finance at all levels is in a slow motion collapse. Cutbacks in funding of police, medicaid, and emergency food & shelter put lives at risk, while a byzantine duplicate and wastful system still prevails.

(2) Eliminating states would actually empower localities. The focus needs to be on promoting off-grid living, including locally produced energy and food.

(3) Counties could form partnerships with other counties based on need, not arbitrary geographical boundaries. For example, a county could join with others for a riverfront project, while joining with different counties for a mass transit project.

Shelby Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:04 pm

dz20854 wrote:...to see why the state level of government is now obsolete.

(1) Government finance at all levels is in a slow motion collapse. Cutbacks in funding of police, medicaid, and emergency food & shelter put lives at risk, while a byzantine duplicate and wastful system still prevails...

Agreed.

dz20854 wrote:...(2) Eliminating states would actually empower localities. The focus needs to be on promoting off-grid living, including locally produced energy and food.

(3) Counties could form partnerships with other counties based on need, not arbitrary geographical boundaries. For example, a county could join with others for a riverfront project, while joining with different counties for a mass transit project.

This will happen to some degree, but this is not the solution for most people, thus this is not a viable competition to the new world order.

The local govt died long ago. Catherine Austin Fitts explained why (people paying 13% arbitrage on interest rates between credit cards and savings accounts sending all their local net worth and thus tax base over time to New York). Next the state level.

Shelby Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:35 am

Watch the very brief but emotional video of town hall meeting:

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/archives/1363-Without-Comment-None-Necessary.html

Also Celente says the American Revolution has begun:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/celente/celente11.1.html

...The first shot was fired on April 15, 2009. Over 700 anti-tax rallies and “Tea Parties” erupted nationwide. Rather than acknowledge their significance, the general media either ignored or ridiculed both protests and protestors, playing on “tea bagging” for its sexual innuendo.

Initially President Obama said he was unaware of the tea parties. The White House later warned they could “mutate” into something “unhealthy.”

Shot #2 was fired on the Fourth of July, when throngs of citizens across the nation gathered to again protest “taxation without representation.” And as before, the demonstrations were branded right-wing mischief and dismissed.

The third volley, fired in early August, was aimed point blank at Senators and House members pitching President Obama’s health care reform package to constituents. In fiery town hall meetings, enraged citizens shouted down their elected representatives. It took a strong police presence and/or burly bodyguards to preserve a safe physical space between the politicians and irate townspeople.

The White House and the media have labeled protestors “conservative fringe elements,” or as players in staged events organized by Republican operatives that have been egged on by Fox news and right-wing radio show hosts...

Guest Sun Aug 30, 2009 3:04 am

Hi Shelby,

I think you might find this interesting. I read the following piece on GlobalResearch.ca

World Stocks Controlled By Select Few
by Lauren Schenkman

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=14934

The researchers are Swiss physicists who have adapted some high end network mapping techniques/methodologies to identify the entities who have the most influence in stock markets in 48 countries. The level of concentration is, for me, mindblowing.

Here is a link to the paper the researchers published February 5, 2009.

The backbone of complex networks of corporations:
Who is controlling whom?

by J. B. Glattfelder and S. Battiston
Chair of Systems Design, ETH Zurich

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0902/0902.0878v1.pdf

Cheers!

Shelby Mon Sep 07, 2009 11:57 pm

For those who think they prefer anarchy:

http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=975 (search for "Somalia" discussion)

Also:

http://mises.org/story/2066

I've read that Somalia has some of the most beautiful African women, something about the mixing with the Persians (free markets). Perhaps as pagan/Islamists, they prefer to some extent an "eye for eye", instead of the Christian commandment "thou shall not steal". But it also sounds like they have followed that commandment internally to large extent with property rights respected, and they simply follow the Biblical principle that it is okay to charge usury (steal) from foreigners. I do know that we rarely know a place by what we read in the news, as otherwise I wouldn't be writing this from wonderfully peaceful Mindanao (supposedly the land of extreme terrorism according to mainstream propoganda). Western shared perspectives are so far warped, that they perceive (imagine) that their life is something desireable (yeah a life of sitting at a desk jail typing comments in blogs is a life?). What a joke Western people are, I am confident Somalia is a more real place to experience more human interaction and love, and a less zombified, Western lifestyle. I have actually given thought to relocating to exactly that region next (Ethiopia/Somalia). Western culture derives from the notion that scientific method is somehow more absolute or less random, than say Christianity. Well just study the Shannon-Nyquist theorem (see my recent debate at Wikipedia and successfully accepted edits), to see that we can guarantee nothing about the signal we think we are sampling, unless it is an imaginary infinite time signal, because we can never be sure we are not dealing with some Fat Tail distributed event. This whole resonance thing (shared perception) gives us a false sense of confidence that order is something permanent.

Take a read of a different outlook on reality:

http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Bell%20Curve%20Economics.html

Shelby Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:37 am

And thus not eligible to be president. The AP story from 2004 is linked within the page below:

http://silverstockreport.com/2009/world-government-lurches.html

dz20854 Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:05 pm

... is an interesting new book about Globalization.

...free market reforms of the IMF and the World Bank...
(1) Deindustrialization... nations around the world stopped making things and started buying them...
(2) Privatization...
(3) Anti-inflationary monetary policy...

The goal of globalization is the same as that for colonialism. Both of these imperialist movements exist to service the empire and service the ruling class; not in spite of what has befallen the lower and middle classes, but because of it...

Globalization in a single generation has created a transnational underclass with widened inequality, corrupted politicians, neighbors estranged from one another, unraveled families, rerouted rivers, emptied ports of ships, and streets flooded with protesters...

Response from America's political class... bailouts... creating the largest single transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in a least a century...

Guest Thu Oct 29, 2009 1:09 am

Hi,

Not sure if the abovementioned acronyms are 100% correct but I assume that you know of whom I speak.

The GSEs are virtually the totality of the mortgage market at present and the Fed appears to be the dumping ground for all of the GSE paper that the banksters and foreign investors want to shed. (Facts, figures and cirumstantial evidence available on request.)

Q. Is one of the intended control measures to be the conversion of "homeowners" to Fed Govt tenants en masse at some point?

Q. In the process would this also facilitate the release of large tracts of land for their return to agriculture and other forms of resource extraction and re-development?

The latter question stems from a theory I am working on (ie. agriculture is the centre piece) about the post-collapse turnaround for the US once all the current forms of wealth are extracted by the PTB. Please also see my recent post about Municipal Bonds here in Economics - Inflation or Deflation?.

Shelby Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:13 pm

You are talented enough to take some of these concepts and write published articles to help make them more widely known. Its good to be explain simply and to the point as I was in my last FinancialSense article about waking up landless in future. I read in Jason Hommel (SilverStockReport.com)'s private forum, that he is contemplating a new service by January 2010 that will let other newsletter writers access his 80,000 reader list.

No pressure implied (do what you want obviously), perhaps if you would like to collaborate on an article with the title above, then write up a draft, I will reply with my re-draft, then if we agree, I can get it published under my name, with you listed in the article as co-author if you want. Derringer has a lot of good information:

http://market-ticker.denninger.net/

angophera wrote:...The GSEs are virtually the totality of the mortgage market at present and the Fed appears to be the dumping ground for all of the GSE paper that the banksters and foreign investors want to shed. (Facts, figures and cirumstantial evidence available on request.)

Q. Is one of the intended control measures to be the conversion of "homeowners" to Fed Govt tenants en masse at some point?

Q. In the process would this also facilitate the release of large tracts of land for their return to agriculture and other forms of resource extraction and re-development?...

I was published about land recently:

He Who Owns The Right Of Way... by Shelby Moore III

Shelby wrote:...The land of the States may be vast, but I suppose we are approaching much greater than 50% to be owned by the federal government, central bank, corporations, and by the wealthiest. Americans will likely soon wake up to see that they are trespassing and enslaved in the vast land they thought was impervious to foreign invasion...

angophera wrote:...The latter question stems from a theory I am working on (ie. agriculture is the centre piece) about the post-collapse turnaround for the US once all the current forms of wealth are extracted by the PTB. Please also see my recent post about Municipal Bonds here in Economics - Inflation or Deflation?.

Refer to the other thread, Trivillions of Quadillars and No Private Ownership (=Socialism).

Guest Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:03 am

Hi Shelby,

Thank you for the offer of collaboration. I take it as a high compliment given the standard of your articles. Up to now I have tended to be somewhat overawed by the high standard of material produced by the best of the bloggers and in some of the forums.

On the other hand I wouldn't be in gold and silver if others had not taken the risk to their reputation and ego inherent in publishing and trying to educate people. Perhaps as a starting point I will try to develop a piece that targets people in the mindset I was in when I first started to really understand how corrupt the whole system is. This might help to provide some people with "shortcuts" in their learning curve. I'll give this and your suggestion some more thought.

Cheers!

Guest Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:38 am

Picked the following link up from a Guest post in comments on an article at:

http://economicedge.blogspot.com/2009/10/martin-armstrong-is-america-on-verge-of.html

Guest:
"The Obama Administration has put on a full court press to bribe China into continued support of our uncontrollable Debt."

"EXCLUSIVE: Obama loosens missile technology controls to China

By Bill Gertz

President Obama recently shifted authority for approving sales to China of missile and space technology from the White House to the Commerce Department -- a move critics say will loosen export controls and potentially benefit Chinese missile development. (My insertion of bold type.)

The president issued a little-noticed "presidential determination" Sept. 29 that delegated authority for determining whether missile and space exports should be approved for China to Commerce Secretary Gary Locke.

Commerce officials say the shift will not cause controls to be loosened in regards to the export of missile and space technology.

Eugene Cottilli, a spokesman for Commerce's Bureau of Industry and Security, said under new policy the U.S. government will rigorously monitor all sensitive exports to China.

The presidential notice alters a key provision of the 1999 Defense Authorization Act that required that the president notify Congress whether a transfer of missile and space technology to China would harm the U.S. space-launch industry or help China's missile programs.

The law was passed after a late-1990s scandal involving the U.S. companies Space Systems/Loral and Hughes Electronics Corp. Both companies improperly shared technology with China and were fined $20 million and $32 million, respectively, by the State Department after a U.S. government investigation concluded that their know-how was used to improve China's long-range nuclear missiles.

Section 1512 of the 1999 law requires the president to certify to Congress in advance of any missile equipment or technology exports to China that the export will not harm the U.S. space-launch industry and that "missile equipment or technology, including any indirect technical benefit that could be derived from such export, will not measurably improve the missile or space launch capabilities of the People's Republic of China."

The new policy appears aimed at increasing U.S.-China space cooperation, which has been limited since the Loral and Hughes case. It follows the Chinese military's test of an anti-satellite missile that produced potentially dangerous space junk after the missile destroyed a Chinese weather satellite in a January 2007 test."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...-ring-2059116/

One of the questions that has guided my thinking and research over the last few years has been:

Q. What can/must the USA faction of the PTB extract from the USA and offer to the Chinese PTB (and other PTB factions) to buy their continued support of the "system" while they take their plans to completion?

One of the answers I come up with is Technology. (Some of the others include Real Estate (but on a continental scale -think Africa, Agriculture, Commodities and some others. However, these three are the main ones.)

This thinking is all part of the "what comes after" theory that I am developing which I alluded to in two earlier posts where I mentioned Agriculture.

Cheers!

Shelby Fri Oct 30, 2009 10:34 pm

angophera wrote:...Q. What can/must the USA faction of the PTB extract from the USA and offer to the Chinese PTB (and other PTB factions) to buy their continued support of the "system" while they take their plans to completion?

One of the answers I come up with is Technology. (Some of the others include Real Estate (but on a continental scale -think Africa, Agriculture, Commodities and some others. However, these three are the main ones.)

This thinking is all part of the "what comes after" theory that I am developing which I alluded to in two earlier posts where I mentioned Agriculture.

Cheers!

I agree there are factions. I agree with your line of logic. Keep me posted.

The Chinese are playing the fiddle also:

http://financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/laird/2009/1028.html <--MUST READ

...US debt to GDP...roughly 400 pct of US GDP. Interpretation: well if the US ‘earns’ $14 trillion a year, it has to service debt on the aggregate of $56 trillion a year. Clearly on that measure, the US is just on the verge of a financial default across the public and private sectors. If interest rates start to rise, look out.

In fact, the US Federal government had to issue a tremendous amount of new debt (treasuries etc) in the second quarter of 09, basically bailing out the entire defaulting world banking system. The US used a combination of quantitative easing, and actually buying its own debt for half of its issuance. The Chinese went ballistic immediately and have been warning the Fed not to do that or else. Treasury Secretary Geithner flew to China to explain...

The point is the Chinese and the Wallstreet PTB both realize the implications of (and Chris got the specifics a bit wrong) impossibility of servicing interest payments on $56 trivillion per year with $14 trivillion gross sales (that is not income!, maybe only a few % of that is net income).

And so yes both PTB are jockeying for position on how they think this will play out.

It is clear that the take down in 2007-2008 was to show the developing countries that they can not decouple, so they will politically be able to participate in the currency swabs, stimulost, and other hippocracy to try to prop up the financial system as currently composed.

I find plausible Chris's logic that they take us into one more big financial bubble that so severely mis-allocates the developing world capital, that entire world is sucked into a world currency with the Greatest Depression every known to modern man. You can see this mis-allocation because factories are being sucked (out of even developing countries) into only a few countries, there are too many people in world now to be all farmers, ... etc... so what are the rest of the people being employed to do now? Basically service the bubble...

Remember that the basic creed of the PTB is that someone has to manage the lives of the useless eaters. Well it is sort of true (but that is a deep topic best covered here on the question of Intellectual Property and the value of artists: http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=1337 )

* trivillion aka trillion, swabs aka swaps, stimulost aka stimulus

Shelby Sat Oct 31, 2009 12:15 am

Notice that the design is to suck all profit to the "top", i.e. a few people.

http://financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/schiff/2009/1029.html

...And for the first time ever, the Fed is paying interest on bank reserves. Therefore, the banks can loan money to the Fed and to the government, via Treasury securities, at an interest rate spread of some 3 to 4 percent without risk. Given these incentives, it makes no sense to loan to anybody else...

Basically the various PTB factions (Wallstreet, Taipans, Industrialists, Bankers, etc) look for ways to siphon wealth to themselves with the least resistance from the public. Wealth as power = control, because without control you can't really maintain your wealth or your power. So they do not really care if the wealth of the world grows less slowly and thus their total wealth is less than it could have been. What they care about is the fact that bigger fish eat big fish which eat the less big fish, and they don't want to be the one eaten someday.

This all comes from not following Biblical principles about wealth.

So we can deduce that they will inflate like hell and thus mis-allocate like hell, with the inflation flowing through them so they spend it first, and they get suck up the mis-allocation as defaults which throws more control to the center.

This is a dinasour game now. Every body is trying to get bigger so they won't get eaten, as we know that ended in their extinction (at least except for the small adept ones like birds and lizards, which we still have "millions of years" later):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentinosaurus#Description

See that little guy, that is you and me. Do not get trampled! Get out of their way!

Actually the model is not entirely accurate as I described it above, because the largest dinasours were actually vegetarians and were the food for the smaller (yet still large enough) but more voracious meat eaters. Well some think that they were just vultures, eating those big ones that died from other causes. Any way, that seems to be the actual model we have now. Wallstreet would be the vultures and the nations (the biggest dinasours) would be the small brain, useless eaters food supply.

skylick Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:16 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gizS3EOghc

skylick Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:34 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFY_RhX6xDY

Guest Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:16 am

Hi All,

My key assumptions are:
1. Fiat currencies and fractional reserve banking ie. control of the money is the foundation for the power and control of ALL Elites. Their "temple' has several pillars including control of energy sources but control of the money trumps everything else.

2. There is NO unified, co-ordinated PTB. It is made up of Factions who compete or co-operate as the situation and their self-interest demands.

I believe that the situation we are witnessing in the US and UK is analogous to the behaviour of a biological parasite. When the parasite detects that the host is dying it stops injecting the chemicals that fool the host's body into thinking the parasite is benefical. It then begins to attack the host, helping to kill it so the parasite can harvest the resources it needs to breed and continue its life cycle.

This is how I view the looting of the remains of the UK wealth and the final stages of the looting of the USA primarily by two "parasite" factions of the Elites ie. the Anglo-American Finance faction and the Military/Industrial complex.

3. The Bank for International Settlements (BIS) is the "one world bank" project.

4. The UN is the "one world government" project implemented through agencies such as the (WTO) World Trade Organisation. The EU and other trade blocs are just steps along the way. (This is a far from perfect construct but it's a human project and they are never perfect.)

5. The "one world currency" project (USD) has been cancelled and is being wound down (profitably) through a carry trade strategy (tested and perfected using gold and then Japan as the testing ground).

6. The Euro project and the Freegold thesis concerning gold are designed to deliver the bulk of the capital to the Factions who come on board.

The European Elites/PTB/Giants (call them what you like) have launched a project called the Euro. This is not motivated by altruism. I speculate that they launched it because they could see that the behaviour of the Anglo-American Elites was going to lead to disaster for the US and UK economies. I speculate that they saw this behaviour as "killing the host".

7. The Carbon Cap & Trade is the rollout of a global tax on every citizen and business (except for the "chosen few" who get an upfront pay-off in carbon "credits"). Please see also (8) Bond Markets.

8. The transfer of capital (5) and the global tax (6) replace the cancelled "one world currency" project (4).

9. Carbon C&T replaces the US Bond market as a "feeding" ground. Professor Fekete has explained how the structure of the US bond market is designed to give guarranteed profits to bond traders through falling interest rates. The Carbon C&T provides guarranteed profits for traders because the "caps" are continually adjusted downwards so the securities are guarranteed to rise.

10. The Elites greatest threat is the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Suppressing or destroying them has been a 200+ year preoccupation of the Elites.

11. The Elites may have over-reached themselves this time around. Perhaps because they think they can ignore or are above the laws of nature and mathematics.

Cheers!

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