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Post  Shelby on Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:37 am

Remember every single one of us commits a felony every day, because there are something like 160,000 laws in the US legal code.

And see what is happening now:

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=515133

Immigration deports 3 Americans
(The Philippine Star) Updated October 18, 2009 12:00 AM

MANILA, Philippines - The BI deported three Americans Wednesday on three different Philippine Airlines flights.

BI Commissioner Marcelino Libanan said among those deported was James Kenneth Nichols, 42, a convicted drug offender who was released from the New Bilibid Prisons after Malacañang granted him a conditional pardon and ordered him to pay a fine of P500,000.

American Douglas John Fitzgerald, 68, is wanted by a US district court in Idaho for tax evasion, while David Lawrence Fiske, 49, is reportedly wanted in Texas for his “failure to register as a sex offender.”

The names of the three American nationals were added to the BI’s watchlist to prevent them from returning to the country. – Evelyn Macairan

Although the above crimes may not apply to us, the procedures are being put in place...

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Post  Shelby on Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:33 pm

Does rebalancing mean the future of the West looks more like this? Notice what a big role drug plays in all the following countries, including USA.

Dubai (indentured servants):
http://www.vbs.tv/newsroom/the-slaves-of-dubai--2 (reminds of Philippines back in the early 1990s)

Pakistan (drugs & guns):
http://www.vbs.tv/newsroom/the-gun-markets-of-pakistan--4

Africa (whorEshipping):
http://www.vbs.tv/newsroom/the-vice-guide-to-liberia-1-of-8--2 (I lived in a squatter area b4, but not this intense)
http://www.vbs.tv/newsroom/the-vice-guide-to-liberia-8-of-8--2
http://www.vbs.tv/newsroom/the-vice-guide-to-liberia-3-of-8--2 (the usa created this place)

U.S.A. (oblivious):
http://www.vbs.tv/newsroom/2nd-revolutionary-war--4
http://www.vbs.tv/newsroom/obama-s-war--4

Click the full screen button when watching the videos.

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Post  Shelby on Sun Feb 07, 2010 2:22 pm

http://www.captainslash.com/chiang-khong-nan/

Interesting website, click Home.

Better roads than Philippines.

Do not be sure that USA is worse than Asia:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/finance/ambroseevans-pritchard/100001459/dollar-hegemony-for-another-century/

The UN expects America to add roughly 100m people by 2050, keeping its age balance in relatively good shape through a mix of immigration and a healthy fertility rate — now 2.12 live births per woman, still above replacement level. This compares to: Taiwan (1.13), Korea (1.2), Japan (1.22), Ukraine (1.25), Poland (1.27), Spain (1.3), Italy (1.3), Russia (1.4), Germany (1.41), China (1.77), Britain (1.96), and France (1.98). Some of this data may be slightly out of date, but the picture remains valid.

Professor Becker said a collapsing birth rate is extremely hard to reverse, and the cultural effects are insidious. Old societies are status quo. They are slow to embrace new technologies. Young minds are the source of hi-tech invention.

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Post  Jim on Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:24 am

Marc Faber lived in Hong Kong for many years. Now I think his principle family residence is in Thailand. And I think he owns a beachfront residence in Vietnam.

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Post  Shelby on Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:26 pm

http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/Thai-Immigration-Collect-Global-Ar-t339408.html

There will be no place to hide with our gold and silver.

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Post  Jim on Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:02 am

Shelby wrote:Mexican dancing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eZg_pxXz5Y

Wow!

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Post  Shelby on Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:21 am

The last time we had El Nino in 1997 - 1999 or so (lasts a few years), all leaves fell off the trees and there were massive fires in Indonesia that spread smoke over here. That was during the Asian Financial Crisis. I wonder if El Nino could cause a problem all over Asia which I think has massive hydropower? This may kill the economic growth here in Mindanao which had been running at probably 15% per year. And it might cause massive inflation here if they increase power rates in order to augment the much cheaper hydropower with diesel. Mindanao is booming and electricity is big part of it. I went around to one of the malls today, and it was dark inside with the aircon turned down low. The workers looked unhappy. It is an amazing turn of events, as I hadn't even known what was going on. I noticed 1 hour brownouts the past several days.

http://carlosconde.com/2010/02/20/philippines-%E2%80%98bracing-for-the-worst%E2%80%99-in-drought/
http://www.mb.com.ph/node/246836/14000-hectare
http://davaotoday.com/2010/03/09/power-execs-warn-of-longer-brown-outs/
http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/246911/davao-firms-help-ease-power-crisismilitary
http://www.mindanews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=7748&Itemid=50

Manila will soon be affected too:

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/246978/magat-starts-countdown-shutdown

HOWEVER we have a presidential and congressional election in May and I wonder if some people are not using this for political ends.

Also everything is different in Philippines:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/health-f5/humor-and-or-wit-t26-15.htm#2800

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Post  Shelby on Fri Apr 02, 2010 10:16 am

We can speak on Skype if you wish.

If you decide to live in Philippines, have you thought about where you will live?

One thing you have to keep in mind is the very high population density and thus most housing will have you wearing ear plugs inside your own house. One solution is an upscale condo (older and lower ones will present many problems, including noise, plumbing that doesn't work, faulty airconditioning, etc), which will cost $30 - 40,000 just for a studio size. And with paper thin walls, you still have no noise assurance if you get neighbor who parties loud (as most filipinos do). This high population density is a problem is predominant through most of Asia. Also you will exhaust yourself trying to get what would be simple things done in USA. For example, you will find it impossible to use a yellow pages and call around for information on anything. You have to travel to the location and speak in person, and then often the "manager is not around". The average worker here knows nothing typically. It has improved some since the 1990s, but you can still lose a lot of time and energy. I can not tell you how much my experience and knowledge of the place is worth, because it will vary for each person's needs/wants, but it is significant in most cases.

If you live in the lowland and unless you normally handle the summer heat of southern border of USA, you will be air-conditioning bound.

If you want to live at a very low level in a "chicken cot" 400 sq.ft. floor area on 800 sg. ft lot (bathroom that barely works, no tub, no view of anything but your neighbors house 10 ft from your window, noise any hour of day/night from neighbor's dog, karaoke, TV, radio, etc), then I can recommend where I live near beach about 5 miles south of downtown davao, for about $100 - $150 per month. In Cebu, you will pay at least $200, and much more difficult to find a house in a reasonable location (unreasonable means squatters all around you, not road up to your house gate, etc). More or less, any where except Davao, you are going pay about $300+ per month to get something just barely reasonable, and it will most likely be a condo.

For very decent house or apartment that will have good working bathroom, not noisy with karaoke all hours of nite, etc.. and I mean quality you are accustomed to, then you are going to pay $400+ any where in Philippines. Foreigners I have know who have money, typically pay nearer to $500+ per month for a western style housing.

If you search in the small cities, you might find something for less, but very unlikely you will find something of decent construction. Typical filipino construction, means for example they are not concerned with small gaps in walls where mosquitoes and ants get to feast on you in bed at night or with incorrect plumbing, cheap toilet that never stops leaking, etc.

I have searched far and wide all over the Philippines for different options. I have lived or visited most every city in Philippines. I am sure I have missed a few places, and places that have changed since I was last there, but overall I have a good feeling for what is.

In terms of the least expensive place not visited by yearly typhoons (hurricanes), where I can have a quality house in a cold climate where I don't need airconditioning, and where I have access to a major city within 60 miles (1.5 hour drive), and where I can live on a large land area (so have peace and quiet, I can always go to my city house for noise and action) near the major highway, then I know of only 1 such location in entire Philippines 60 miles from Davao. This location is where I am currently building a house. Baguio (4 hours from Manila) does not qualify, because Manila is too far, Baguio quickly becomes boring, and the typhoon season is even more intense than in Manila. Baguio is very overcrowded, and pollution/traffic is starting to become a problem, as well nearly impossible to find a place where you can be sure a filipino won't put a crowing chicken near your bedroom window to disrupt your sleep nightly.

There is an alternative cold mountain location nearer to Davao (about 30 miles and 45 minutes) called "Eden", but it is difficult to find a large land area (with road access), so you will be protected from karaoke invasion, at a reasonable price. There are high priced subdivisions in this area, if you want to spend $100,000+ then these subdivisions are probably best location for you. I do not prefer this area because of the extra expense, and mainly because I want to run long-distances at the cold mountain and the location I have chosen is the only mountain valley I know of in Philippines with good access that has a flat 10 kilometer section. Whereas, in Eden I feel there is nothing I can do there other than stay inside my house. But it mainly about costs. The subdivision is way overpriced for what I would get, and to obtain a large land area with road access and overlooking all of Davao in Eden, would be big effort (months of issues with titles, disputes, etc) and significant costs (probably no less than $50,000 for 3 acres). Given my house is transportable, I can always have the option to move it to Eden if later I decide that is what I want. There is very little flat land areas in Eden, but the advantage is you are very accessible to city of Davao, and if you spend enough you can be overlooking the entire Davao gulf including lights of city at night, Samal island, etc. Very nice! But you need to spend some big money to do it correctly. Eden and my other chosen location are about same elevation, 2000 - 3000 ft.

Davao has numerous advantages over Cebu and Manila, in that it is the food/fruit/tuna producer of the country, and it has one of the nicest islands (Samal) which is not overcrowded and featurelessly flat like Mactan Island in Cebu. Davao has more malls than Cebu, yet has many times more land area. You have many more places to drive and explore from Davao than from Cebu. And my main reason for choosing Davao is besides the lower cost of everything, there are many fewer foreigners here. I find the more foreigners (e.g. Cebu and Manila), the more bars, drugs, and crime. So far, no drugs nor crime in Davao, because we've had Mayor Duturte for decades and he shoots the criminals with driveby shootings after 3 warnings. Unlike Cebu, which is infested with rival mayors for each sub-city and widespread corruption and crime. However, the advantage of Cebu is you can travel south to ferry hop to Negros in your car or motorcycle and explore Negros which has nice baywalk with restaurants at Dumaguette (eventually Dipolog will be as nice in North Mindanao a 4 hour ferry ride from Dumaguette). Valencia City is a low elevation (1000 ft) and very nice small town with nice homes 45 minutes from Dumaguette. Some foreigners have built $100,000+ homes there. Also Cebu island gives you proximity to Leyte and Samar even by boat with your vehicle from north cebu. But we have a lot of places to travel to by land from Davao without any ferry necessary.

I am currently building a house. You can truely "be alone" in this location 60 miles from Davao (but less so now that I am the 3rd foreigner to build a house in this same plot of land, about 8 acres).

The house I am constructing is transportable (in case ever I wanted to relocate or sell the house) meaning it can be disassembled and placed on a truck. It is nearly entire made of steel and concrete. I used special painstaking engineering to make it strong, lightweight, and sound/heat insulating (e.g. trusses and styrofoam aggregate). It is 2 storey design with 800 sq.ft. at each floor (1600 sq.ft if finish the ground floor at minimal cost). Currently I am not enclosing or finishing the ground floor. My upper floor will have a front and rear terrace of 8', so this leaves me 480 sq.ft interior which I will have 320 sq.ft living room+kitchen/dining at front of house, and remainder at rear of house for bathroom (with tub for warm baths on cold nights!) and bedroom opening to private rear terrance. The front terrace overlooks the main highway from a distance, and the rear terrace have a nice view of a huge mountain and farm. My neighbors are growing fresh romaine lettuce and broccoli and strawberries and any other cold climate vegetable one desires. So the food bill decreases as these western vegetables are very expensive in lowland (due to fuel costs and low economies-of-scale).

There is a lot of engineering, supervision, hassles and work in this pre-fab house. But it is nice. I can alter the design if someone wants more or less floor area. It is important to have 2 storey so no one can easily look inside your windows (natives can climb fences) and to get up above the ants crawling level, and generally nicer view and more breeze.

Any way, I can build this house for you and provide the land for free, at a cost of $10,000. You will own the house. We can probably structure it as a lease contract (with another side contract that you own the house), so you can use the $10,000 that you must post with immigration to obtain the permanent residence retirement visa. Actually my materials cost on that house will be nearer to $5,000, but there are enormous hassles in building a house. I doubt the $3000 or so "profit" would even compensate my time, but I am willing to give it a shot, because I am trying to get my teenage offspring started in a pre-fab construction business. Any way, this is higher quality construction and a typical western pine+gypsum house, meaning lower maintenance and longer longevity, besides it is pre-fab and you can move it. But you won't notice it is pre-fab. It will have nice and solid appearance. You should be able to easily sell the house at what you paid and increasing with inflation, because it is very difficult to find that quality of house in Philippines for less than $20,000. I suspect my offspring will get a lot of business from foreigners, once we can figure out what size and style is most popular. A buyer will have the option of enclosing the ground floor at minimal cost to make 1600 sq.ft, which is a nice size house and mansion in Asia.

Also I am now making investigations about obtaining 5 acres on a secluded private hill and white sand, turquoise water beach for foreigners who want to have a house overlooking the ocean with peace & quite (nearly impossible to find this in Philippines, usually only small beach lots with karaoke invasion surrounds you). I intend to have mountain and beach house, but you need both. Sometimes you get tired of the cold weather (60 - 65 degrees at night, 75 - 85 at day) and vice versa.

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Post  Jim on Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:51 am

From www.jsmineset.com:

"There is a probability that Tanzania is one of the safest areas on the planet over the next two decades of world change."

"Tanzania permits dual citizenship."

http://jsmineset.com/2010/04/08/opportunities-for-investment-in-tanzania/

Also, Sinclair thinks South Africa would be a good place to live for the next 20+ years.

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Post  Jimmy Bora on Tue Jun 15, 2010 4:44 pm

Forget Africa, it's the most difficult land to own a property without problems or be confronted with racism. It's a place full low IQ's, it's too dangerous to conversate rational with someone who would kill you or is not clever enough to have a non-racial discussion... And also they are too lazy to work hard if needed...

I saw Congo, South-Africa, Swaziland, Mozambique, Egypt, Morocco, Tunesia,... Always having problems or troubles there. It's impossible to find a peaceful solution with indoctrinated low-IQ's... FORGET it to invest there, problems garantueed...


I LOVE South-America and the mentality of the local people!

Uruguay is the best land of the world to live there. Also for the climate and friendly intellectual debates. It's a wonderful green desert (plenty farms, clean waterresources, good hospitals, big harbor of Katoennatie, etc...), but it's not a place for tourism (only Montevideo, Colonia (VERY BEAUTIFUL old harbor) and Punta del Este). Only a place to be for your retirement...

But also is Thailand fantastic, says my uncle. But don't ask me about Thailand, I didn't visit it, but would like to do it after hearing the positive comments of my uncle... And Thailand is near China for trade...

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Post  Shelby on Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:37 pm

Someone emailed me privately about Paraguay last month. I had originally thought of trying to obtain citizenship in one of those South American countries. But have you actually lived there? I've heard south americans are pretty violent and brutal, e.g. Colombia (where someone had a huge bolo knife outside my taxi), but maybe that is just Central America? The European mix in Uruguay, Chile, and Argentina makes it different in better way? I heard there are lot of unemployed young trouble makers in Argentina?

Yeah I wrote about the low IQ barter crowd just a few minutes ago:

https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/precious-metals-f6/how-will-we-physically-trade-gold-silver-at-5000-500-t61-120.htm#3207

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Post  Jimmy Bora on Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:57 pm

No, I don't live there, but I'm researching to get passport in Uruguay and buy property there. I travelled two times to Uruguay, I've maded many good contacts there. Very professional and clever people. Your juridical rights as homeowner are very high and good protected. I'm really satisfied about this land. It's my number ONE...


This is informative book (I've bought one and it's well documented):

http://sovereignsociety.com/bookstore/

Buy "The passport book", you would find your information about passports, visa,...


This is a good site:

http://www.globalpropertyguide.com/Latin-America/Uruguay


Yes, I also heard about Paraguay and Colombia, and I don't advice to travel there. Too risky, I think...

Yes, there are many unemployed, but high skilled youngs. I believe in the future of South-America and his growing population. It could turn into a superpower if the monetary regime is expansed and the high inflation is killed.


Go buy a ticket to Uruguay for a week or two. You would like it, nothing much to see, but very interesting to live there. Travel with the bus around Uruguay, you will be surprised. So green farms... It will be a good experience and it could change your mind/vision about Uruguay. :-)

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Post  Jimmy Bora on Tue Jun 15, 2010 8:08 pm

Greece is looks like a violent place to live there, but have had no problems or somewhat with the anarchists. It's the same there in South-America. Nothing to have fear about it. Other stories are mostly bullshit or negative propaganda of other states against them.

My parents and grand-parents have lived in Congo and South-Africa. They leaved it and would never come back. So many problems and bad experiences.

I lived for 2 months in Turkey, had good and sometimes bad experiences. But would never invest there for one simply reason: Earthquakes. Also Chile is dangerous place for earthquakes.


And guess where Noam Chomsky is living. I find him a very brilliant man (and is my favorite author), I readed most of his books. Mind-blowing.

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Post  Shelby on Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:21 pm

Someone who works as an embalmer, says that it is quite regular occurrence for them to sex the bodies of the dead, if they are deemed quite attractive. And not just once, but 3 ejaculations to make it satisfying. I am dead serious.

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Post  Jim on Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:54 pm

Jim Cramer said on CNBC that he just bought property in Mexico and that the prices are very reasonable. If I heard it right, he bought three houses in San Miguel de Allende.

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