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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty Poland's leaders refused H1N1 and thus were executed

Post  Shelby Mon Apr 19, 2010 4:34 pm

All of Poland's government (96 people) was executed by TPTB:

http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15927501

I had expected retaliation when Poland's leadership vocally (many YouTube videos of them protesting WHO new world order mandates) refused the H1N1 hoax:

http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article80029.ece
http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/poland/091203/poland-swine-flu
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=15990

The Central Bank head was also killed, so perhaps it was pre-emptive dealing with upcoming EU changes (Greece and PIIGS).

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ADD: someone emailed me more circumstantial evidence:

http://www.urbansurvival.com/blog/?p=2277

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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty Information Revolution (post-Industrial/Agricultural) will kill the nations

Post  Shelby Wed Apr 21, 2010 5:10 am

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-do-you-measure-paradigm-shift.html?showComment=1271826464263#c5052284019613154197

Shelby wrote:Derek, you won't be able to time this shift.

Ray, manufacturing is not a very valuable activity (China driving towards 0 margins by trapping domestic savings for mis-allocation internally with no free market competition externally for capital).

The technologists cross borders and hold the burgeoning power:

http://www.google.com/governmentrequests/
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Google-discloses-demands-for-apf-1630255653.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=3&asset=&ccode=

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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty EU won't

Post  Shelby Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:18 am

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-do-you-measure-paradigm-shift.html?showComment=1272502188458#c5039421495587361589

Shelby wrote:It makes no difference whether Greece leaves the EU, as the outcome is the same. EU is bankrupt. Even Germany's exports were financed by the overspending of the rest of the world.

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-do-you-measure-paradigm-shift.html?showComment=1272503724645#c122292890976460060

Shelby wrote:It is very important to understand that the Euro was never money and never will be. It was a promise backed by nothing.

Of course the Euro won't "fail" because the westerners also won't "fail".

The word "fail" in this context is similar to the universal health care provided by Weimer Germany as Hilter came to power. The "universal health care" never failed, because the Germans were too perfect to fail. Instead, they just genocided the "weak races" that were "causing the problem in the health care system":

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article18251.html
https://goldwetrust.forumotion.com/economics-f4/changing-world-order-t32-60.htm#2870

So the point is that refusal of the society to admit failure, gives the power to TPTB. Society refuses to buy gold and admit failure. They rather give everything to the paper elite instead of admitting and dealing with the reality of failure.

=====More on Euro======
http://www.kitco.com/ind/katz/mar012010.html

"If Europe bails out Greece, it will be a victory for the paper aristocracies of the countries of Europe, and a defeat for the ordinary people. The ECB will have to print money at a faster rate, and this will be bullish for gold."

Shelby wrote:The point is that TPTB will give us our paper illusions. No we won't "fail"! Paper won't "fail"! Never.



http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-do-you-measure-paradigm-shift.html?showComment=1272502466200#c740884891731931027

Shelby wrote:Again Ray lacks insight into what is different now as compared to 1980s.

The juniors have an extreme beta, and the majors provide no more leverage than physical silver.

The problem with investing in stocks (as compared to 1980s), is that western civilization is bankrupt, and so it is very very likely that there will be a complete disruption of the paper markets. I am not saying that someone might not get their timing perfect and cash out a "10 bagger" into physical gold from a mining investment.

This epoch is not about "making money with speculations" but about preserving capital, and "making money by capturing the growth of developing markets" with real income businesses.

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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty The failure will be increased socialism (integration), aka forcing producers to pay for parasites

Post  Shelby Fri Apr 30, 2010 7:09 pm

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/minor-top-is-nigh.html?showComment=1272654256443#c6601959047930721738

Shelby wrote:
Ray wrote:"The EU will not only survive, it will become even stronger, and more tight knit."

Agreed, but 'stronger' only in the sense that it will be more socialized (the producers paying for the parasites). I think the more 'integrated' is better description than 'stronger'. It will actually become weaker relative to any pure capitalism (opposite of socialism, big govt, and taxes), but the whole world is moving towards increased socialism, so thus one can think of it as 'stronger' in the sense that it will be harmony towards a trend towards a one world govt where the producers are controlled by the parasites. An example of this type of world, is for example in Belgium and some other Germanic EU countries, one is not allowed to be seen working at any location where that person is not registered with the govt to work. There are more govt inspectors to enforce this, than there are workers producing something. Thus everything is incredibly expensive, and individual freedom is curtailed.

Ray wrote:"The euro and the dollar will maintain a near parity link as was originally intended."

And their value relative to gold will decline precipitously. But gold will become extremely dangerous asset to hold (agree with Ray "when the masses dip their toes in gold, watch out"), here is my post about that:

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-do-you-measure-paradigm-shift.html?showComment=1272508970948#c9176828296987190184

Ray wrote:"It could only be done from Germany, because even her former enemies, and the Asians, and South Americans, and all points East and West respect German resolve and discipline."

Germans are perfectionists and think they are superior to others. They have the world's best engineering. This is perhaps the optimum culture/attitude for world domination. I am roughly 32% German ("Hartwick"), 32% English/Irish ("Shelby and Moore" are both last names), 32% Southern French/Italian ("Primo"), and Cherokee native American ("Deason"). I explained in previous post how the Germans' lust over their perfection caused the genocide:

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-do-you-measure-paradigm-shift.html?showComment=1272503724645#c122292890976460060

Ray wrote:"And I say that as an Englishman - after all, we are Anglo Saxon."

What has the UK produced since 1900? Their cars suck. Their software is non-existent.

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-do-you-measure-paradigm-shift.html?showComment=1272508970948#c9176828296987190184

Shelby wrote:
Ray wrote:"It is also noticeable how you tolerate a poster who uses 'Anonymous' to pour forth his vitriolic and bigotry with foul language. You make no comment on this, which any honourable blog, or forum would jump on immediately."

Ray you are apparently a socialist. You are dyed and bred into the Great Harlot trend we are in now. I strongly disagree with your request! Let everyone be free to speak! "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me". You want a govt police controlling what we can say? Come on Ray! Please grow up... I know the people in UK are really big on the concept of prosecuting people (in civil or criminal court) for what they say and they even get into huge brawls at soccer matches. They think they speak a superior form of english. Egoist parasites.

Apparently Derek is a libertarian, and thus doesn't believe in censorship (as this has blowback effects) but he also believes in property rights and has stated he wants us to respect that he owns the domain name investophoria.com. I will try to respect his property rights, but I also may feel compelled at times to post.

Ray wrote:"TPTB are well entrenched in Germany, it was they who ensured Germany's unity (East/West). Something thought at the time impossible and would collapse the then fragile German economy"

At big tax cost to the German producers. This has worked to Germany's advantage because it is a small population and having many debt dependent consumer countries, gives Germany a big export market for its well engineered products. But this has created a weak system of multitudes of "useless eaters" and a small core of producers. This is the model of the new world order. The problem is that the small producers get squeezed by the big govt result. The big corporations win.

Ray wrote:"To short gold in this climate is sheer madness. They are holding it down as best they can liked a coiled spring."

Correct.

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/minor-top-is-nigh.html?showComment=1272656765317#c5733551153633977910

Ray wrote:"The only ones who are not yet controlled by the Financial Elite are those labelled 'rogue states' and that is why they are so named. They won't yet play ball. Eventually they will, they will have to.

But it serves the International bankers purpose also to drag things out. As yet, they 'need' one or two 'rogue states'.

And, contracting the number of banks with 'extinctions' and
amalgamations is all planned. And a time of self inflicted crisis' is the best time to do it.

Everything is going well, and according to plan. It is only mass naivety that fails to grasp it."

Agreed!

And the survival of this increasing socialism depends on its ability to prevent any pure capitalism (aka "free market") competition.

This is a fascism (big corporations and banks the winners, everyone else losers).

But technology is the wildcard. The internet is far from being under control.

Let's watch and see how this plays out. I already listed numerous recent failures for the TPTB:

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/how-do-you-measure-paradigm-shift.html?showComment=1272270549692#c1200734758719685089

Shelby wrote:* Global warming is a scam as proven by climate-gate hackers
* H1N1 scam failed, Poland even refused the vaccine
* NAU target date keeps getting pushed back
* Rise of alternative information on internet
* Most people realize 9/11 was a false-flag scam
* Major resistance to socialized health care in USA.

Of course the overall trend will continue to be towards the one world order, irregardless of setbacks.

But I am also saying that as the cancer of socialism (big govt+fascism) everywhere spreads, there will be zillion small beacons of light of free market activities that TPTB can not stomp on. If they succeed in total domination, they will suffocate the economy and everything will implode. So they have no choice but to allow these.

Ray you need to spend some time understanding the balancing forces that TPTB must allow and contend with. Nature will not allow them total domination. Nevertheless, more than 50% of the population is socialist, so the danger from TPTB is real.

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/minor-top-is-nigh.html?showComment=1272660497396#c2566940820562830191

Shelby wrote:Germany is playing a similar brinkmanship as China (loan money at too low of interest rates so consumers can go deep in debt to buy your products):

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/blame-germany-for-greek-drama,-galbraith-says:-%22extreme-brinkmanship%22-cripples-europe-476698.html?tickers=EUO,VGK,^DJI,^GSPC,UUP,GLD,XLF

Remember Ray I told you that this is the death of the industrial revolution. There is too much automation and there can never again be full employment in industry. We need a new paradigm for employment.

Hint: the internet

The industrial revolution is dying, that is what this socialism is. It is the death of an era. What will replace it?

TPTB are riding the trend of increasing automation, i.e. death of industrial revolution.

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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty Why do Americans think they are all about doing good in the world?

Post  Shelby Tue May 04, 2010 3:43 am

Maybe payback time is coming for our past aggressions (even those well before the Bush regime):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Walker_%28filibuster%29

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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty Capital Controls have started (or nearly so)?

Post  Shelby Tue May 04, 2010 4:14 am

Note someone had emailed me about this a few weeks ago. I will say that CaseyResearch as the wrong intepretation below. This is already capital controls, because it will require the sending bank, i.e. a USA institution, to withhold the 30% if the money is being sent to a financial institution that does not meet all the requirements of the law. This indeed affects me in Asia, as these local banks do not yet report to the IRS, so it is very likely that soon the USA banks will no longer agree to wire sizeable sums to these Philippine banks without taking a 30% withholding. It is probably only a short time from now, that this new law starts being enforced!

Click this link to get the links to the various documents mentioned in my quote below:

http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayCdd.php?id=384

Capital Controls Are Here?

Two days ago over at zerohedge.com, they ran a story titled “It’s Official – America Now Enforces Capital Controls.” Here’s the story’s lead-in:

It couldn't have happened to a nicer country. On March 18, with very little pomp and circumstance, President Obama passed the most recent stimulus act, the $17.5 billion Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act (H.R. 2487), brilliantly goalseeked by the administration's millionaire cronies to abbreviate as HIRE. As it was merely the latest in an endless stream of acts destined to expand the government payroll to infinity, nobody cared about it, or actually read it. Because if anyone had read it, the act would have been known as the Capital Controls Act, as one of the lesser, but infinitely more important provisions on page 27, known as Offset Provisions - Subtitle A – Foreign Account Tax Compliance, institutes just that. In brief, the Provision requires that foreign banks not only withhold 30% of all outgoing capital flows (likely remitting the collection promptly back to the U.S. Treasury), but also disclose the full details of non-exempt account-holders to the U.S. and the IRS. And should this provision be deemed illegal by a given foreign nation's domestic laws (think Switzerland), well the foreign financial institution is required to close the account. It's the law. If you thought you could move your capital to the non-sequestration safety of non-U.S. financial institutions, sorry you lose – the law now says so. Capital Controls are now here and are now fully enforced by the law.

After reading through the “Hiring Incentives to Restore Employment Act,” which is actually H.R. 2847, not H.R. 2487 as indicated above, the assessment by zerohedge.com appears to be accurate. Sure there are those who will say that this bill is about “cutting down on tax evasion” not “capital controls,” but I think that’s naïve. Even so, I encourage you to read the entire piece by zerohedge.com (link here) and all 48 pages of the HIRE Act (link here) so you can decide for yourself.

http://www.caseyresearch.com/displayCdd.php?id=385

Capital Controls Revisited

Yesterday we ran a story published over at zerohedge.com that made the claim that capital controls are now here and fully enforced by the law. After further review, however, it appears that claim is inaccurate. The HIRE act is not about capital controls, it’s really about enforcing IRS rules. One can still legally have money in offshore accounts as long as the financial institution and the individual report it to the IRS.

The fact is that the HIRE act now signed into law makes it very costly for financial institutions not to report accounts and transactions to the IRS, and it gives the U.S. authorities ways to better enforce the requirements for U.S. citizens to report all bank and financial accounts they hold outside of the U.S. And financial institutions that do not cooperate will now see increased pressures from the U.S. government.

The law also closes a loophole that existed when a country's banking secrecy laws (think Switzerland) did not permit foreign institutions to turn in info about U.S. citizens to the U.S. government; it now requires that these financial institutions close these accounts or face penalties from the U.S. government.

Consequences of this last round of tightening are:

1) More foreign financial institutions will decide to stop doing business with U.S. citizens and businesses. And it will become increasingly more difficult for Americans to open foreign bank and brokerage accounts.

2) Once the U.S. government actually decides to implement capital controls, it will have already collected all the information needed to possibly force repatriation of capital held by U.S. citizens in foreign financial accounts (this could be the next step but it would be much harder to implement).

So, let’s recap. Capital controls are in fact not yet here, but the pressure is on and the HIRE act is another step to restrict the economic freedom of Americans. We’ll keep you posted.

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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty VAT cometh to USA (1099 for everything over $600)

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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty NWO is succeeding? (define "success")

Post  Shelby Thu May 06, 2010 9:31 pm

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/opportunity-in-making.html?showComment=1273181177349#c1241828598588089855

Shelby wrote:Ray who is the real fear monger? Who has been brainwashed by the finest educational institutions in UK?

http://silverstockreport.com/2010/why-fear.html

Hommel wrote:"Will the real fear mongers please stand up?

...So who ultimately writes the schoolbooks? Bankers...It is actually harder to convince a college educated investor to buy silver and gold than a person who has not paid to be brainwashed in college...

...Bankers play on people's fears...you are supposedly not responsible enough to invest it wisely...your money might be stolen if you keep it at home...even though it's safe enough for you to sleep there in peace at night.

..."What if someone comes to my home and threatens me like in the movies?" ...that usually happens only in the movies!

Today, 20% inflation rates would be as if thieves robbed 100% of all the assets of every 5th home on the street, and got all their financial accounts, too, every year...

...I have to convince them that the silver and gold of 10,000 different investors, in 10,000 different vaults in 10,000 different homes, all owned by gun owners, who live in a nation that has 80 million gun owners, is far, far safer than pooling 10,000 different investors money into one place, guarded by just a handful of low-paid security guards. It's an easy sell, because the point is irrefutable.

...if the government ever does make silver and gold illegal to own, it's those places that "hold" it for you, that will have to give it up to the government...

...bankers fear silver. The bankers fear their own bankruptcy. That's why they created the Federal Reserve...to bail them out in case of their own failures, so they would be able to continue their scams..."

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/opportunity-in-making.html?showComment=1273179216082#c6566020380971799082

Shelby wrote:You said China was becoming powerful because I see Asian engineers every where, and I retorted your dis-logic by saying that 50+% of world population is Asian, and thus I should see 50+% of the world's engineers as Asian.

Now you go on the attack with more dis-logic.

First there was your nonsense yesterday, advising people to buy dollars. All the paper currencies will die relative to paper price of gold. You've got to be the world's biggest idiot to be buying dollars. The dollar may go to parity with the Euro, while gold goes to $1300+ this year (probably much higher). Sure gold will oscillate, but the fact is gold will on average be higher against the dollar year after year forward. How stupid the advice to buy dollars! I wrote make a beeline to gold & silver, during that dip to $1160s this week, and now today gold jumps over $1200.

Now your nonsense about how the USA in 1800s is an example for us of what can happen to UK and China and EU going forward. You apparently whor(E)ship the power of the international bankers, but nature is more powerful than any men. Why do you pray to these men? You are a slave in your mind, but you could choose to be. You can walk outside today and be free, the international bankers can't stop you from doing that. They are not omnisciently powerful.

In the 1800s, the USA was using gold and silver as money. Most people (in the rural farms) ignored the paper the currencies (Continental, etc). They were going outside to the real things, just as we can do now. The international bankers did their best to foment war, debt, economic volatility, etc. But the fact is, the numbers show unequivocally that those who saved in gold in the 1800s had a 33,900% better return than those who held dollar bonds in the 1900s (here follows the numbers for proof):

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article16212.html

http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/How%20Deflation%20Is%20Inflation.html
(another copy)

http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/How_Deflation_Is_Inflation.pdf
(PDF copy)

It is not the international bankers who are in control. Nature is in control. And the nature of people, is they love debt and insurance and laws that "can alter reality" (not!). And as this pushes their result to failure with a very large public sector that eats all their production. Failure Ray. Got it? Failure.

Yes the EU, China, and USA will huddle together to save their co-dependent financial mess. They will go as far as they can in failure mode, even to the point of rationing and fascism in order to fight the free market reality that they must end their big govt eventually. How far can it go? How far could Hilter go? Eventually failure fails, and the international bankers have to be in harmony with this trend. But yes, even while WW2 ended, the bankers gained more control. Why? Because most of the people want what they are selling (debt, insurance, big govt).

And yes we will head to a NWO.

It is very important to understand, that humanity produces 1000 times more than it needs. It is via debt slavery that scarcity is created. So sure, a NWO can actually be pleasant, if we only get 1/1000 of what we produce, we still get what we need. And the international bankers take the other 999/1000 of all production. This is a huge opportunity for those who understand the free market.

Invest in the dollar if you want to capture 1/1000 of the world's production, and invest in gold if you want to capture 999/1000 of it. After this supercycle, then look for ways to invest that bring that 999/1000 to the people and bypass the international bankers' theft system (taxes, debt, big govt). Those who are clever (and I mean some P2P aspect of internet no man can ever control), will reap $trillions and surprice mankind. The bankers will have to be in harmony, they are not as powerful as you think.

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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty Welcome to asian theft, coming soon to western world

Post  Shelby Fri May 07, 2010 8:35 pm

Speaking about being unhappy, I bought an airplane ticket (on Philippine Airlines, aka PAL) to the USA for flight in August 2009 from a travel agent in the most upscale mall here (SM, Shoemart). I told them that in 2003, PAL had me fill up the paper work for refunding my one-way ticket ($300), but never issued the refund to my credit card. Even my credit card company refused to do it. I lost the $300.

This agent at SM, assured me (numerous times, as I mentioned to them over and over again that I was sure that PAL would not refund me) that if I refunded before August 2009, i would only pay $50 cancellation fee, and that I would receive the refund within 3 - 6 months. The asian airlines use long refund period to make sure you never get your refund. Well 9 months later, PAL and the agent issued me a refund minus $300 (on a $900 ticket). The agent now says they forgot to tell me that they charge an extra $50 service fee, and then PAL added a $100 "no show" fee (which is only supposed to be charged if I don't refund before the flight data) plus a bunch of miscellaneous fees that sound like they were invented out of thin air, such as "service fee #2, user's fee, library fee, accounting fee, etc". Who knows it could be the agent is a liar, since the check is drafted from the agent, but I suspect PAL is complicit also. It is a racket. Everything companies can do now to steal. That is the way they get ahead by stealing.

This is the future of society where people have no rights. This will be coming to USA soon. Get ready for riots when Americans are routinely ripped off and they can't do anything about it, because they have already given up their power to the govt and to the big corporations and bankers. The law will not help you, just as it can do nothing here to help me.

My welder said I was stupid to give a company my $ unless I was sure to fly. He said filipinos are accustomed to lying and theft and it is the way of the world. This is why they idolize USA, they think we have a different and non-corrupt society, if they only knew that our govt is more corrupt than theirs. This reality is going to hit very soon.

The travel agent rep confirmed that this is routine way business is done. They view it as normal.

Remember China got where it is by stealing from the west, this is the economic model of our future. Abject failure. TPTB want that people will fight and steal from each other, so that their NWO will look attractive in comparison.

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/opportunity-in-making.html?showComment=1273266080990#c338649325916705577

Shelby wrote:Academic excellence does not guarantee economic success. Asia (especially China) lives in a political stone age. They know it, or at least they did, before they were bought off recently with glimmer of materialism wrought from slave labor (Yuan peg) mercantalism driving a 60% concentration in the economy for construction, with large % of the remainder in exports. Math won't help them with the reality of blowback from such mis-allocation. Fiddling with their calculators won't stop nature...neither could TPTB stop this blowback even if they wanted to (and they do not).

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UPDATE: Someone advised me to threaten to report the ticket refund fiasco to DTI (Dept of Trade & Industry), and I promptly got an offer from the travel agent to settle for only $58 theft. I decided to accept this because of the time I would lose dealing with DTI. So we humans by our own stealing, force a need for a government which ultimately steals from us (socialism).

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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty Chinese versus Native Americans

Post  Shelby Tue May 11, 2010 11:07 pm

http://investophoria.blogspot.com/2010/04/opportunity-in-making.html?showComment=1273619019228#c4312802986201759128

Shelby wrote:Ray wrote:
"China was civilised long before the west, and was inventing things when the only Americans were red Indians hunting bison, and invented nothing."

I have too heard or read that China invented gun powder and paper money, etc.. The american indians apparently taught the Europeans how to survive their first hard winter, for example teaching them that planting a fish with their crops would act as a fertilizer. I suppose each was adapting to their differing environment. Asia due to its mild climate during last ice age, was more populated and thus there was more competition for resources apparently. Thus the asians learned how to use advanced tools of war and society control, and also how to live together in large concentration. The native Americans learned how to live in harmony with the land (given their small footprint on its resources) and how to remain mobile to prevent any resource depletion nor conflicts.

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Changing World Order - Page 4 Empty Expatriation Benefit vs. Risks

Post  Shelby Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:23 am

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article20146.html

Shelby wrote:If you want a background on my articles and comments at this site:

http://www.google.com/search?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.marketoracle.co.uk+Shelby+Moore

I appreciate very much CaseyResearch publishing this detailed report. I ordered a copy and read it entirely. I had known about the ability to purchase citizenship from these Caribbean islands for $75k to $200k, plus attorney's fees, travel costs, renunciation costs, exit tax costs, etc.. I was also aware of the slower (and often excruciatingly frustrating) option where one obtains residency (e.g. Argentina) for retiree, investor, or marriage reasons, then gradually earns citizenship.

I have been thinking a lot about the potential benefits and risks, because I have traveled (lived) outside the USA some (but not all) of the past 15 years.

My thoughts:

1) For someone well under the $2 million net worth limit for renunciation tax-free, $100k+ is a lot of money to apply to something of dubious value as I will explain below. That is 80 ounces of gold and perhaps greater than 10 - 20+% of a person's net worth. In the coming chaotic "MadMax" greatest hyper-inflation depression of all time, 80 ounces of gold will probably buy 80 houses or dozens of boats or several small airplanes or small army of full armed security guards or enough food for decade. These sort of things might become more important to survive. Obviously someone with greater than $2 million in net worth, may be looking at the potential tax benefits outweighing the less than 5% net worth cost. That seems to make sense, except that I don't think the global tax situation is going to remain static. With all the rich "tax evaders" having citizenship in two tiny Caribbean nations that have no base economy other than being tax havens, wouldn't it be quite easy for the USA (and TPTB who are driving this NWO), to target these $multi-millionaires simply by applying pressure (via G20, etc) to other nations to stop honoring the passports from these tiny countries. I do not understand the logic that admits the USA is now pressuring the other countries of the world to lockout US citizens financially, but does not consider that the USA could easily apply that to citizens of other small nations. A simple political argument that these multi-millionaires tried to escape from paying their fair share of the global problem. Remember the UBS and Lichtenstein raids last year. I think it is very important to understand that we are heading for a global contagion of debt default spiral with negative real interest rates and negative marginal utility of debt. No country will escape from this, because every country has been complicit in the mis-allocation of capital for the past decades.

2) So I don't think there will be any escape from the global tax net coming, and that applies to potentially every citizen in every country. If you have a lot of visible wealth, you will be targetted in various ways. Even I expect physical gold and silver to be increasingly taxed at their fiat appreciation rates, such that gold and silver investors will completely wiped out. The law is not going to be your friend. I suspect most people are going to end having to break the law in order to survive. In fact, most of us break the law every day, given there is a law against almost every activity, and many of these are international laws. Let me be blunt. The elite are going after the millionaires during this epoch. They will wipe you out. They've thought of every escape route and they will close every one of them, even if you already renunciated and expatriated.

3) Renunciation and declaration of your net worth for the exit tax, is providing a list to be targetted in the future.

4) Revelation in the Bible is very clear about this. Do not depend on your gold and silver to save you. Do not depend on the law to save you. Confidence in these false securities is a weakness during these Tribulations.

5) I am contemplating that the most important thing to do now is to establish a humble residency and make sure you can live below the radar. If you want to live outside the USA, establish a residency someone, but don't expect citizenship in a country other than the one you want to live in, as being any extra security. Now if you could obtain dual citizenship, then this might be a strong benefit. Dual citizenship is apparently possible, but it is another very slow process.

6) Pay your taxes. If your investments depend on tax havens to be successful, you are setting yourself up for big problems in future. Of course minimize your taxes in the legal ways, that make sense to you. Do not of course alter your investment behavior due to taxes. If you taxes are part of the fundamental decision in your investments, then you should be looking for better investments. The best investments beat out any taxes by order-of-magnitude. Also keep in mind how much personal wealth do you really need? I hope you are investing for the benefit of mankind, and so I hope you investing in paradigm shifts. If you are just trying to accumulate wealth to take with you when you die or pass on to your offspring, then you've already failed. In short, this epoch is about a test of values. Remember it is the Tribulations. The trumpets have blown. Listen to what they mean.

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Post  Shelby Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:55 pm

SRSrocco wrote:...I would like to add that although I agree with your premise.....a falling EROI will make anything electronic at a large scale logistically more problematic as time goes by. The world is collapsing right beneath our feet. Infrastructure is disintegrating at a rapid pace. Local municipalities are plugging up waste water problems with temporary bandaids. They are hoping and praying the whole thing doesn't fall apart. And...as we know, taxes from Real Estate and etc will plummet as time goes by. This will make a bad situtation worse.

Without good infrastructure, any CENTRALIZED CONTROL and COMMAND PROGRAMS will not work as time goes by.

We are heading towards a barter system whether we like it or not. I still believe the United States is going to break up into local regions as that is the best way to try to manage a system on peak oil and a falling EROI...

SRSrocco thanks for the kind words, and also thanks for sharing your insight.

I want to use North Korea as an example. Their infrastructure is nearly non-existent, their people are starving, yet their command and control is one of the fiercest. Precisely focusing all the resources on the fascism is what both helps to drive the fascism and the poverty that causes demand for it.

A falling EROEI should drive increasing use of electronics and networks, as these are much more energy efficient than moving people and things physically.

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Post  Shelby Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:15 am

Philippines price is P120 / 46 = $2.21 (targetted to those with money, the broad population won't eat this, unlike in China or apparently India)
USA is the baseline at $3.58

India is lowest at $1.22, China at $1.83:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Mac_Index#Figures
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article21187.html
http://wallstcheatsheet.com/tag/big-mac-index-2010/

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Post  Shelby Fri Aug 06, 2010 4:31 am

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article21659.html

Shelby wrote:We are on the road the new world central bank...

http://www.kitco.com/ind/Turk/turk_jul292010.html

"It swaps currency for the gold loan at the commercial bank. In other words, the 380 tonnes of gold is now owed to Portugal by the BIS, improving considerably the quality of Portugal’s balance sheet. After all, who would you rather have owing gold to you? Some commercial bank like Citibank or central banks’ own central bank, the BIS? Clearly, being owed gold by the BIS instead of a zombie bank would be one way for Portugal to “reduce its funding costs” by improving the quality of its balance sheet."

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Post  Shelby Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:02 am

Collapse of Mexico, central and south america involvement:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article21867.html#comment93778

(read entire article)

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Post  Shelby Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:38 pm

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article21960.html

Look at Chart 3 and 4, Arizona jumped from 36% to 65% shortfall.

But still these numbers are reasonably small compared to the $700 billion TARP given to the banks. Federal govt should be able to bail out these shortfalls, but I bet they will demand for state sovereignty (Real ID finally forced down states throat?).

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Post  Shelby Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:29 am

Doug Casey, very interest point-of-view on China. Thank you very much for sharing that.

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article22011.html

TGR: What do you make of the fact that a country with a communist orientation encourages its citizens to buy gold, while the world's supposedly premier democracy does not?

Doug Casey wrote:DC: First of all, let's recognize that communism was a very short-term aberration in the 5,000-year grand screen of Chinese history. Mao only ruled the country for about 30 years. Since the late '70s, China's been returning to its old ways. Everybody knows that the Communist Party in China is nothing but a scam for its members to cream something off the top of everything. It's ludicrous to say China is a communist country. It's easier to do business in China than it is in the U.S.—lower taxes, less regulation, less legal hassles.

In point of fact, the Chinese are reverting to the mean. For many centuries, up until the Industrial Revolution, China was much wealthier than the West. Now it's rising again.

As far as the United States is concerned, unfortunately it's going the other way. The issue has nothing to do with democracy. Democracy is just mob rule dressed up in a sports coat. It's much overrated. The U.S. government is becoming more powerful, and the U.S. is radically departing from the economic philosophy of free markets that made it great. It's simultaneously becoming more politically repressive. The Chinese are just reverting to their traditional economic philosophy, which is not communism, it's capitalist trade and production.

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Post  Shelby Mon Aug 23, 2010 1:28 am

Now in Philippines (huge youth population):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpZvdcXlaPk

Elvis in 1957 (boomers were young):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpzV_0l5ILI

Looks like history will rhyme, similar effects.

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Post  Shelby Thu Aug 26, 2010 2:12 pm

End of Leave It To Beaver lifestyle coming?

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/The-American-home-is-cnnm-3515289332.html;_ylt=AgR9qU1lMuJgQc_ysY.Yh3C7YWsA;_ylu=X3oDMTE2aDNqYjVpBHBvcwMxMARzZWMDdG9wU3RvcmllcwRzbGsDdGhlYW1lcmljYW5o?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=8&asset=&ccode=

On a broader scope, the survey revealed that, despite the recent hoopla about the new urbanism and return to cities, most Americans still lead a "Leave it to Beaver" lifestyle.

Of the more than 76 million owner-occupied homes in 2009, 63 million were traditional detached, single-family residences. And city dwellers, you're outnumbered: Far more homeowners live in the suburbs than in cities.

Aare they are all going end up cramped into high rises in the city to save cost of transportation?

Looks to me that the banksters (NWO fanatics) have targetted that Leave It To Beaver lifestyle with MORTGAGE debt overload and that will be the end of America as we know it.

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Post  Shelby Wed Sep 01, 2010 8:40 pm

Added many more below than first time you read this, plus I translated the Georgia Guidestones below...

Shelby,

I know from firsthand experience that eugenics and racial hygiene are at the forefront of the plans of the elites. They plan to exterminate entire races and they have already developed race specific bio-weapons for this purpose.

http://www.cuttingedge.org/ce1045.html

Cheers.


Shelby,

The present social, economic and political order is being destroyed intentionally. Please, purchase a copy of "Behold a Pale Horse", it lays everything out in detail.

Cheers.


Shelby,

The elites plan to reduce the global population to about 500 million as per the [URL="http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_georgiaguidestones05.htm"]Georgia guidestones[/URL].

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_sociopol_depopu.htm

Cheers.

Let me translate the Georgia Guidestones for you, which are the tombstones of NWO which results from the Major Frauds of Humanity:

http://www.thegeorgiaguidestones.com/Message.htm

1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
Translation: Balance is antithesis of way nature self-organizes, thus we will kill everyone while trying to defeat nature in futility.

2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
Translation: Artificial insemination, chop off the penises of all unfit males.

3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
Translation: End free speech, end diversity.

4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
Translation: end freedom of religion, end Christianity, destroy God.

5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
Translation: Oppress people with kangaroo courts bought and paid off.

6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
Translation: Move the kangaroo court to a place where no people can touch it or stop it.

7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
Translation: Eliminate local decisions.

8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
Translation: Eliminate personal rights.

9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
Translation: Talk about truth, beauty, and love, while doing the opposite.

10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
Translation: Nature is a cancer, kill it.

I fyou want to see what the elites have planned then just pay a visit to the Denver airport and check out the murals.
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_denver02.htm

Cheers.


Shelby,

You are missing the big picture here. The elites see massive population as PLAN A, their top priority above all else.

Cheers.


Shelby,

Much of China is an ecological wasteland and their banking system is nearly inslovent. The elites are building up China as a bogey man, an economic, military and racial threat.

They are right now building up a hyper-nationalist Japan, soon to armed with nukes to "deal" with china when the time comes. The asian union and NAU will not come to pass until after the great blodletting has occurred.

The elites are not just after money, they are Nazi, satanic and racist to the core, They plan wars to offer blood sacrifice to their god, lucifer. I know this because I had some involvement with them before I found Christ.

Their desire to reduce the population to 500 million is not just about resources or the enviroment, it is about racial hygene. They plan mass genocide for blacks, muslims, Chinese, latinos, and non-zionist Jews. these people are evil!
http://www.savethemales.ca/001870.html

Cheers.


Jim,

I see the whole thing coming apart by 2009-2010. The future is ultra nationalism and protectionsim and China will be made the scapegoat as America's economy collapses.

The plan is for worldwide racial war, escpecially in Europe and America. The elites have a plan to get rid of billions of "useless eaters" and most of them are in China, India, Africa, Latin America, etc.

Gold and silver will skyrocket with the coming conflagration as all things paper collapse. I also expect uranium to soar as Germany and Japan rearm with nukes and as more countries look to nuclear energy.

Cheers.
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Shelby,

You are incorrect, housing WILL crash so the elites can pick up real estate for pennies on the dollar. Specifically, they are looking to aquire farms(food) and land that holds WATER resources. Keep your eyes on the big picture!

Cheers.


Bull,

Mexico is headed for very hard times in the near future, I would stay in Calgary.

Cheers.


I hate to burst evryone's bubble, but Ron Paul is a high level freemason and nothing more than a decoy duck. He is there to reassure the sheeple that there are "dissenting" views and that the political process matters and is legitimate. It isn't and it doesn't.

If Ron Paul becomes too popular, he will either scuttle his own campaign like Perot, or he will be taken out like George Wallace.

Cheers.


Germany has defacto ownership of most of the gold in Fort Knox.

Cheers.


Shelby,

People can't be taught truths, they must discover truth themselves.

Cheers.


Blackwater and other outfits will now be used in America to deal with illegals, gang members and other "undesireables".

Cheers.


The bottom line is this; all maniupulation will end and end badly. The laws of economics are immutable just like the laws of physics. The "what" is a certainty, the only thing in question is when.

Cheers.


The banksters are in inflate or die mode. There is too much liquidity for anything to crash in value, for the time being.

cheers.


True inflation has been mitigated by the following:

1) cheap wages via outsourcing
2) cheap wages paid to ilegal immigrant invaders, especially in the housing sector, meatpacking, agriculture, etc.
3) cheap, shoddy and dangerous goods from Chinese slave labor and sweatshops

The world is changing though and trade wars, racial/civil wars are going to remove toe above mitigating factors. Hang onto your gold and silver but more impotantly, hang onto your guns and ammo!

Cheers.


The good Lord created the different races and put then in their own disticnt nations for a reason. Multiracial political constructs are evil neo-babels and will be destroyed in the coming cataclysmic global racial/religious wars, sadly.

"... nation (ethnos) shall rise against nation (ethnos), and kingdom against kingdom ..." (Luke 21:10)


Cheers.


Skipyol,

The elites are planning to provoke a world wide race war with the end result being the eradication of the black race as well as the latinos and many asians. Aids was manufactured for the task and now other diseases are being unleashed to deal with the "useless eaters".

In the not to distant future, you will see the coming National Socialist European superpower move against Africa and the Mid East and ALL of Southern Africa will again be under White rule.

http://spitfirelist.com/ftr.html
http://www.originofaids.com/articles/experiments.htm
http://www.markswatson.com/prophetic_1.htm
http://www.konformist.com/2000/satanflu.htm
http://www.think-aboutit.com/aliens/omega_file_txt.htm ( disregard everything about flying saucers, everything else is true)

Also, you can pick up copies of "Behold a Pale Horse" and/or "Serpent's Walk" on Amazon.com, both those books tell you step by step what is coming.


Shelby,

The plans for the amero and the NAU will not come to fruition. Globalisation will give way to hyper nationalism and racial nationalism. Minorities will become scapegoats within countries like the US and China will become the big scapegoat for unfair trade practices as the whole system melts down.

This will all lead to race wars and the big war with China.

Even Dines made reference to the coming "great expulsions" of racial and ethnic minority groups from the West in one of his newsletters.

Cheers.


The protocols are not a forgery. {<--- click protocols to read them)

One agent provocateur of the Rosicrucian societies was, in fact, John Calvin, who was a crypto-Jew and whose legacy of legalism and bloodshed brought reproach against Christianity which continues to the present day. This staggering piece of evidence — that Calvin was Jewish — was obtained from the proceedings of the B’nai B’rith Convention in Paris in 1936.



“Once the revolution had been decided upon, the Jewish plotters introduced Calvinism into England to split Church and State, and divide the people. Contrary to general belief, Calvinism is of Jewish origin. It was deliberately conceived to split the adherents of the Christian religions and divide the people. Calvin's real name was Cohen! When he went from Geneva to France to start preaching his doctrine he became known as Cauin. Then in England it became Calvin. History proves that there is hardly a revolutionary plot that wasn't hatched in Switzerland; there is hardly a Jewish revolutionary leader who hasn’t changed his name.

“At B'nai B'rith celebrations held in Paris, France, in 1936 Cohen, Cauvin, or Calvin, whatever his name may have been, was enthusiastically acclaimed to have been of Jewish descent (The Catholic Gazette, February, 1936)...

“‘We are the Fathers of all Revolutions, even of those which sometimes happen to turn against us. We are the supreme Masters of Peace and War. We can boast of being the Creators of the Reformation! Calvin was one of our children; he was of Jewish descent, and was entrusted by Jewish authority and encouraged with Jewish finance to draft his scheme in the reformation (which was to convince Christians it was alright to charge usury and other damnable heresies which are in violation of God’s Laws).” (Eustace Mullins, The Secret Holocaust)
http://www.watch.pair.com/new-reformation.html

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Post  Shelby Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:10 pm

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article22417.html

Shelby wrote:It is not that preferences don't constantly change (and quite astronomical range of diverse individual experimentation too), it is that vested interest groups grow exponentially (increasing order = increasing control) by suppressing evolution (increasing disorder = increasing independent preferences).

An example of such control is that 5 families own all major media in USA (down from 50 in 1970s). An example of evolution fighting back is the internet and this website.

As discovered in the 1856 law of thermodynamics, nature is overall always trending to maximum disorder:
http://www.coolpage.com/commentary/economic/shelby/Mass-Entropy_Equivalence.html

Thus evolution (diverse preferences) can never twarted for too long, these exponential pockets of local order (control) are always overrun by humanity (evolution):
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article22098.html#comment94376

It is critical that you understand the math of self-organization that arises out of the frightening chaos of astronomical random possibilities:
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/hybi/current/msg04006.html

You might consider the above link my Magnus Opus-to-date.

The current global morass is but a wart of the arse of evolution, and a little Compound W will shrink Satan back down to his true size. Fundamentally this period we are in now is about Satan deciding which direction he will run and hide his arse (inflicting great pain in the process on those who followed his suggestions).

Remember it is your choice whether each of you want to understand the fundamental frauds that lead each of YOU into such slavery:
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article21650.html

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Post  Shelby Sat Sep 04, 2010 3:39 pm

(make sure read the footnotes too)

I have been watching many people misuse the word complexity, and been thinking for a while now, I should explain what is and what is not complexity.

To understand complexity, we must first understand what is entropy. Entropy is the organization of matter[1]. When matter is concentrated in one place in time and/or space, that is known as decreasing entropy, aka increasing order. Conversely, when matter is distributed randomly[2] that is increasing entropy aka increasing disorder.

In nature, low entropy is a brittle and unstable condition. For example, you wouldn't expect to walk into a room and find no oxygen to breathe (i.e. that the oxygen had been concentrated into another place). The second law of thermodynamics was discovered in 1856 and it stated that the universe is trending to maximum entropy, aka maximum disorder. What that law tells us is that order can increase in open systems (where energy can be input from the external system), but that in a closed system (the universe by definition has no external system) order is trending towards minimum.

Most people think disorder is a bad thing. Maximum disorder means the maximum number of independent actors exist in a system, whereas maximum order means the fewest number of independent actors controlling the rest of the actors. Because independence and randomness are synonymous in this context (one can not be independent if they are not free to act at their random free will uncorrelated/unrestricted to the other actors in the system).

What we see in nature, is that nature evolves more efficiently when there is maximum disorder, because the math of self-organization that arises out of the frightening chaos of astronomical random possibilities, is that the more independent actors (free will population), then the more mutations per generational step, thus maximizing the rate of fitness:

http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/hybi/current/msg04006.html
http://esr.ibiblio.org/?p=2491#comment-276759
(I urge you to study the airfoil example in above link)

Thus complexity is precisely the opposite of what you seem to think is. Complexity is the reduction in the number of possibilities! To increase the possibilities is a reduction in order, increase in freedom and evolution, and a reduction in complexity.

What you are doing by moving back to the farm is combination of increasing and decreasing your complexity. On the one hand you become less dependent on "the highly ordered system that is failing" but you also increase your complexity because you have limited your possibilities for trading with the world.

===================from my private email======================
> If you have N agents each undergoing a mutation every clock
> tick, that is no different from 1 agent undergoing a mutation
> every N clock ticks. The single one can do it, provided you're
> willing to live at 1/Nth the rate.


Exactly, and since nature is competitive, the slower one won't win the
evolutionary race because it won't adapt to dynamic change as fast as the
one with a large population.


>
> 10 people are only 10x more productive than 1 person. They're
> not 2^10 times more productive...


That assumes the 10 don't interact and form (n! - k!) / k! permutations
for all values of k.

That is why we need the decentralized, end-to-end internet.

> But the fact is there is a finite number of time
> that one agent can interact with others.

That isn't the point. No one agent is exposed to all possible
environments, so sharing is essential for maximum knowledge. Listen again
at the 0:40 to 5:50, most especially from 3:50 to 5:50, or THE KEY
important point from 5:00 to 5:25 min of this:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/writings/cathedral-bazaar/linux1_d50_96kbs.mp3
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[1] matter means mass or energy, potential or kinetic, via the relationship E = mc^2

[2] random is not uniformly! Uniform distribution is order via a concentration of variance (of spacing and/or time).

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Post  Shelby Wed Sep 08, 2010 9:44 pm

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article22482.html

Shelby wrote:Bottom line is that a huge chunk of the global economy is debt and must be eliminated, but the public sector refuses to allow this and continues to take on more debt to displace the debt shed by the private sector:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article22462.html
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article16212.html

If isn't bad enough that the govt is 50+% of the economy in most western nations, the govt can continue to increase debt perpetually because for each halving of the interest rate, the total debt can double without causing any increase to debt service:

1% of $10 trillion = $100 billion
0.1% of $100 trillion = $100 billion

The fat cats (Fed insiders and friendly moguls) can borrow at these ever lower interest rates (caused by QE), and buyout the private sector which is stuck with higher interest rates or no credit.

What we have here is a massive transfer of wealth from private sector to the fat cats who own the public sector.

We have a massive mis-allocation of capital which will end up with say 70-90% of the global economy in the hands of the fat cats by proxy of the public sector.

This will devolve into fascist rationing and a "rescue" by a new world government.

This is not a depression. This is a perpetual trap called NEW WORLD ORDER. There is no escape. Your gold and silver won't help you:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article20327.html

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